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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSector73 View Post
    Normally need to update to the latest AMD drivers as well. I have not observed high idle temp loads or load temps via bios updates on 3900x.
    Yeah I update to the latest chipset driver as soon as it's available but it's not just the slight rise in temps, I get random reboots out of nowhere, I could be in the middle of watching a YouTube video or writing an email and the system will reboot, 1302 was fully stable but the last 2 have been buggy as hell for me.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Dicehunter View Post
    Yeah I update to the latest chipset driver as soon as it's available but it's not just the slight rise in temps, I get random reboots out of nowhere, I could be in the middle of watching a YouTube video or writing an email and the system will reboot, 1302 was fully stable but the last 2 have been buggy as hell for me.
    I think the issue is with the latest BIOS and 4xRAM. (I've lodged a support ticket for this) Try 2XRAM for a bit and see if the issue disappears. (just to confirm my suspicion not as perment fix.)

    If this does fix your issue should lodge a support ticket as well.
    Last edited by RedSector73; 07-26-2020 at 03:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSector73 View Post
    I think the issue is with the latest BIOS and 4xRAM. (I've lodged a support ticket for this) Try 2XRAM for a bit and see if the issue disappears. (just to confirm my suspicion not as perment fix.)

    If this does fix your issue should lodge a support ticket as well.
    I went back to 1302 and my system is perfectly stable again, It's just the new bios, It's not stable.





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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSector73 View Post
    I think the issue is with the latest BIOS and 4xRAM. (I've lodged a support ticket for this) Try 2XRAM for a bit and see if the issue disappears. (just to confirm my suspicion not as perment fix.)

    If this does fix your issue should lodge a support ticket as well.
    As far I can report I have the issue like wrote before and I have jsut 2 RAM Sticks 2x16GB G.Skill.
    I even tried to rise ll my voltages with standard settings and it was still rebooting for no reason.

    The worst thing is ASUS keeps to being silent on this issue. No reaction on reddit or here.
    At least somehting like "hey guys we know about the issues, we try to reproduce it, or we are on it to fix it. We will be in touch"
    But nothing...
    And it´s scary to buy a 400€ $ Board and encounter such a bug with restarts.
    I can just recommend everyone who moved back to 1302 or the last stable bios to do the following steps.
    POWERSHELL
    CHKDSK /F /R
    confirm with yes
    and restart

    and additionally after it finished the first step
    SFC /SCANNOW

    to be sure that the random restarts didn´t left any issues on your system.

    The issue which appears with the newest bios is, that it is for the hard and software like pulling the power plug. It´s already one of the worst things can happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonnyraddy View Post
    As far I can report I have the issue like wrote before and I have jsut 2 RAM Sticks 2x16GB G.Skill.
    What sticks exactly / timings ?
    Trying to run down a few ideas.

    Quote Originally Posted by sonnyraddy View Post
    At least somehting like "hey guys we know about the issues, we try to reproduce it, or we are on it to fix it. We will be in touch"
    But nothing...
    And it´s scary to buy a 400€ $ Board and encounter such a bug with restarts.
    I can just recommend everyone who moved back to 1302 or the last stable bios to do the following steps.
    That would be nice.

    Quote Originally Posted by sonnyraddy View Post
    POWERSHELL
    CHKDSK /F /R
    confirm with yes
    and restart

    and additionally after it finished the first step
    SFC /SCANNOW

    to be sure that the random restarts didn´t left any issues on your system.

    The issue which appears with the newest bios is, that it is for the hard and software like pulling the power plug. It´s already one of the worst things can happen.
    You need to add this method to check your windows 10.

    run as admin [powershell] (type into search bar, when you see it pop up, right click on it and run as admin)

    sfc /scannow

    wait till complete
    now run (still in powershell)

    Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth

    wait till complete

    if either found and fix integrity errors or corruptions, reboot and then repeat both steps again. If you get caught in loop greater than twice than you have serious windows 10 installation issue. The purpose of the above is to correct any critical errors in windows 10 install.

    SFC only reports a problem, DISM fixes it.
    Last edited by RedSector73; 07-26-2020 at 08:27 AM.

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    The second answer I got from Asus:

    Thanks for the feedback. We collect field reports from users as well as system integrators running this build. So far there have been no issues / concerns reported. I do also monitor and collect feedback from the community but this is weighted against all other sources as well. This build has also passed internal qualification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSector73 View Post
    What sticks exactly / timings ?
    Trying to run down a few ideas.



    That would be nice.



    You need to add this method to check your windows 10.

    run as admin [powershell] (type into search bar, when you see it pop up, right click on it and run as admin)

    sfc /scannow

    wait till complete
    now run (still in powershell)

    Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth

    wait till complete

    if either found and fix integrity errors or corruptions, reboot and then repeat both steps again. If you get caught in loop greater than twice than you have serious windows 10 installation issue. The purpose of the above is to correct any critical errors in windows 10 install.

    SFC only reports a problem, DISM fixes it.
    Thank you for the additions.

    G.Skill Trident Z RGB DIMM Kit 32GB, DDR4-3600, CL17-18-18-38 (F4-3600C17D-32GTZR)
    runs without issues since beginning, also set to this values after I encountered the issues with the new bios, still reboots.

    Usually with 1302 I ran the following successful karhu 20000%
    TIMINGS Test 19 (Stable)
    Speed 3800MT/s
    tCL 16
    Trcdrd 17
    Trcdwr 16
    PRE (tRP) 16
    ACT (tRAS) 32
    Trc 48
    Trrds 4
    TrrdL 6
    Tfaw 16
    TwtrS 4
    TwtrL 12
    Twr 12
    Trcpage Auto
    TrdrdScl 4
    TwrwrScl 4
    Trfc 294
    Trfc2 486
    Trfc4 300
    Tcwl 16
    Trtp 8
    Trdwr 9
    Twrrd 3
    TwrwrSc 1
    TwrwrSd 7
    TwrwrDd 7
    TrdrdSc 1
    TrdrdSd 5
    TrdrdDd 5
    Tcke 1
    ProcODT 34.3Ω
    Cmd2T 1T
    GDM Enabled
    PDM Disabled
    RttNom RZQ/7
    RttWr RZQ/3
    RttPark RZQ/1
    AddrCmdSetup 0
    CsOdtSetup 0
    CkeSetup 0
    ClkDrvStren 24Ω
    AddrCmdDrvStren 20Ω
    CsOdtDrvStren 24Ω
    CkeDrvStren 24Ω
    VOLTAGES
    CLDO VDDP 950mV
    SOC 1.1v
    DRAM 1.4v
    VDDG CCD 1.025v
    VDDG IOD 1.025v
    Errors NONE
    Status STABLE
    Last edited by sonnyraddy; 07-26-2020 at 09:58 AM.

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    Decided to test a different CPU just incase my 3950X was faulty, Flashed it back to 2103, Had another random reboot, This time right in the middle of an email so not something exactly taxing on the system, Went back to 1302 and rock solid, Asus, You guys need to get your %&%& together, Your products aren't cheap yet you treat your customers like test subjects.

    Next motherboard purchase is definitely Asrock or MSI if this trend keeps up.

    EDIT

    Well after a bit of experimenting it looks like whatever Asus changed in 2103 messed with memory in a detrimental way, On 2103 I have to set my memory to 2933MHz for the system to remain stable but on 1302 the memory can run stable at its rated speed of 3200MHz.

    Asus' "Internal Testing" doesn't seem to test these very basic things it seems.
    Last edited by Dicehunter; 07-26-2020 at 09:20 PM.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Dicehunter View Post
    whatever Asus changed in 2103 messed with memory in a detrimental way, On 2103 I have to set my memory to 2933MHz for the system to remain stable but on 1302 the memory can run stable at its rated speed of 3200MHz.
    Agree, running G Skill F4-3800C14-8GTZN x 2 and G Skill F4-3800C14-8GTZN x 4 and both have issue with 2103 BIOS @ 3800 running 950Mhz for north bridge unstable. Can drop to 3600 and it runs fine. Not really the point.

    Might revert back 1302 and see if works better but waiting on ticket support from ASUS to see what there answer is.

    I'm trying a few new boards in the very near future, been using ASUS only for 10 plus years might be time to see what other companies are like these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSector73 View Post
    Agree, running G Skill F4-3800C14-8GTZN x 2 and G Skill F4-3800C14-8GTZN x 4 and both have issue with 2103 BIOS @ 3800 running 950Mhz for north bridge unstable. Can drop to 3600 and it runs fine. Not really the point.

    Might revert back 1302 and see if works better but waiting on ticket support from ASUS to see what there answer is.

    I'm trying a few new boards in the very near future, been using ASUS only for 10 plus years might be time to see what other companies are like these days.
    The annoying thing is Asus seem completely unwilling to properly test a bios before they release it and then claim "Oh it passed our internal testing" their internal testing mustn't be that good then.





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