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    Quote Originally Posted by SamyKomarow View Post
    Got depending on the game title arround 10% fps difference between rebar on and off i think that is a big benefit. On some games the benefit between 3080 to 3090 is similar to the 3090 re-bar on vs off. So i think thats something only comsmetical and unimportant.

    This is all nice but i dont know how it is with other X299 Asus Boards but on my Apex Board i got a big Performance Hit with every bios after 3006

    This New rebar bios is not different...... 3dmark timespy a dx12 benchmark : bios 3006 17850 points compare to 3404 rBar bios 16100
    And in other benchmark you Lose 5-10 fps and no one can tell me Why.... Every bios setting is the same beside rebar

    No one can tell me Why and iam not the only one.... I have allready contacted Support but nothing

    My point as long i got a Performance Hit by updating the bios for the rBar featur is not doing anything for me

    benchmark result 3dmark timespy , on the left side bios 3006 and on the right side 3404 with newest gpu drivers and rbar on (i know rbar does nothing for this benchmark )
    https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/1...7/spy/19479698
    Last edited by scryed; 04-04-2021 at 05:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scryed View Post
    This is all nice but i dont know how it is with other X299 Asus Boards but on my Apex Board i got a big Performance Hit with every bios after 3006

    This New rebar bios is not different...... 3dmark timespy a dx12 benchmark : bios 3006 17850 points compare to 3404 rBar bios 16100
    And in other benchmark you Lose 5-10 fps and no one can tell me Why.... Every bios setting is the same beside rebar

    No one can tell me Why and iam not the only one.... I have allready contacted Support but nothing

    My point as long i got a Performance Hit by updating the bios for the rBar featur is not doing anything for me

    benchmark result 3dmark timespy , on the left side bios 3006 and on the right side 3404 with newest gpu drivers and rbar on (i know rbar does nothing for this benchmark )
    https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/1...7/spy/19479698
    I've noticed the same trend on my R6EE with a 10980XE. with every new uCode the systems get slower and slower and Intel also disable stuff, e.g. TSX. Typically, the latency increase (AIDA) with every new uCode as well. I think the fastest is uCode is: 68 with BIOS 2002 but I have not done a side by side comparison like you have with timespy. would be interesting to try all uCodes and run the same benchmark suite to see how they perform. Problem is to be exhaustive, you need to run every BIOS and uCode combinations and that's quite a few...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Int8bldr View Post
    I've noticed the same trend on my R6EE with a 10980XE. with every new uCode the systems get slower and slower and Intel also disable stuff, e.g. TSX. Typically, the latency increase (AIDA) with every new uCode as well. I think the fastest is uCode is: 68 with BIOS 2002 but I have not done a side by side comparison like you have with timespy. would be interesting to try all uCodes and run the same benchmark suite to see how they perform. Problem is to be exhaustive, you need to run every BIOS and uCode combinations and that's quite a few...
    I tested and i don't see any grounds of 3404 being any slower then 2002, my Timespy is a bit higher with 3404 and all games tested i don't see any difference's except extra performance with 3404 and rBar enabled in whitelisted games.

    here is my Aida 3404 vs 2002 which shows that latency actually improved with 3404 vs 2002

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Scone@ROG View Post
    List of ROG boards with REBAR Support for X299. The release for some of these updates are staggered. Some vendors are still to release VBIOS updates, too.

    ROG RAMPAGE VI EXTREME ENCORE 1003
    ROG RAMPAGE VI EXTREME OMEGA 3402
    ROG RAMPAGE VI EXTREME 3402
    ROG STRIX X299-E GAMING 3402
    ROG STRIX X299-E GAMING II 1003
    ROG STRIX X299-XE GAMING 3402
    PRIME X299-DELUXE II 3402
    ROG RAMPAGE VI APEX 3402
    TUF X299 Mark 2 3402
    TUF X299 Mark 1 3402
    PRIME X299-A 3402
    PRIME X299-DELUXE 3402
    PRIME X299 EDITION 30 1003
    PRIME X299-A II 1003
    WS X299 SAGE 3403
    WS X299 PRO 3403
    WS X299 PRO/SE 3403
    WS X299 SAGE/10G 3403
    Pro WS X299 SAGE II 1003
    Hello.

    Could you please post a link for 1003 for Rampage Extreme Encore, there is no release in any of asus sites,


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    Well ... I have waited since the 25th of last month for the new bios 1003 ... I understand that the updates are staggered, but no motherboard has been updated so far ... at least not for the latest x299 series

    ROG RAMPAGE VI EXTREME ENCORE 1003
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    PRIME X299-A II 1003
    Pro WS X299 SAGE II 1003

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    If you want to test things now just use 0070 for the encore board posted by Shamino in this thread on page 2, post #13. Rebar working fine for me with this bios. But I agree, don’t know what’s taking so long to post 1003. ???

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    i did some mote testing with ne new bios , run some benchmarks , on every picture the left is 3006 and the right is 3404
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    this 3 are dx11 benchmarks ...... they dont look bad but i still dont know what happen to 3dmark dx12 benchmark

    go i back to 3006 ore stay with 3404

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    Quote Originally Posted by scryed View Post
    i did some mote testing with ne new bios , run some benchmarks , on every picture the left is 3006 and the right is 3404
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    this 3 are dx11 benchmarks ...... they dont look bad but i still dont know what happen to 3dmark dx12 benchmark

    go i back to 3006 ore stay with 3404

    You cannot tell or messure the difference between Re-Bar / SmartMemoryAccess on or off with those benchmarks because as far as i know neither of those support and use this features. So you cannot tell any difference. You need a benchmark or game wich actually use the Re-Bar/SmartAccess function.
    Last edited by SamyKomarow; 04-05-2021 at 07:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopper64 View Post
    If you want to test things now just use 0070 for the encore board posted by Shamino in this thread on page 2, post #13. Rebar working fine for me with this bios. But I agree, don’t know what’s taking so long to post 1003. ???
    i tested it, but for me 0070 in OC is alot inferior then 0901, lets that 1003 is based on 0901

    what is not normal is this delay........ alot of ppl are just waiting for a new bios for rebar and asus suport tells that it will be available soon......

    the reality is that in this case the top of the line product gets rammed, i also have the same problem with my asus GTAX11000 top of the line product gets killed in support by asus

    lets hope the delay ends soon


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    Quote Originally Posted by SamyKomarow View Post
    You cannot tell or messure the difference between Re-Bar / SmartMemoryAccess on or off with those benchmarks because as far as i know neither of those support and use this features. So you cannot tell any difference. You need a benchmark or game wich actually use the Re-Bar/SmartAccess function.
    I know All that, i compare bios 3006 vs 3404 and the point iam trying to make..... There is no point for rBar if you los fps from one bios to another in the First place and than you get only in some games who use rBar the fps back

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