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12-10-2020 10:48 PM #1
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Yet Another Bios 3003
Version 3003
2020/12/07 20.22 MBytes
ROG CROSSHAIR VIII FORMULA BIOS 3003
1. New CPU support
2. Add a ReSize BAR shortcut for AMD SAM support
Before running the USB BIOS Flashback tool, please rename the BIOS file (C8F.CAP) using BIOSRenamer.
So many new releases in such a short time. Has anyone tried this?
It does not detail performance improvements or anything like that, but in my case I had two crashes in a week with 2702 (and also a few crashes with another Bios, 2311). I had not had any previous crashes the last eight months since building this rig, but updated because of the desire for improved system performance, as detailed in the explanations.
Manuals typically say not to update your Bios because of the potential risks associated with a failure on updating, but improved performance is what you want.
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12-11-2020 10:09 AM #2
mrazster PC Specs Motherboard Crosshair VIII Formula X570 Processor AMD 3700X Memory (part number) CMT32GX4M4Z3200C16 Graphics Card #1 RX5700XT-8G Sound Card Built in motherboard Monitor Dell U3415W Storage #1 PNY XLR8R 256GB Nvme M.2 Storage #2 WD Black SN750 250GB Nvme M.2 CPU Cooler EK Custom Waterloop - Cpu and GFX Case Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic Power Supply Corsair HX850i 850W Keyboard Logitech G105 Mouse Logitech G900 OS Arch - Gnome
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OK..so I´ve been following the discussion both in this forum and on Overclock.net, about the whole bios snafu..and as many others trying to get a stable system. I made this post in the Overclock.net forum so I´ll just quote my self from that post.
I´m using Arch Linux so I don´t have the same tools and options as you guys have.
So AFAIK there is no way for me to check logs for WHEA and error code 41 (if memory serves correctly) since the logging and error reporting works differently.
Relevant hardware as follow:
Crosshair 8 Formula
Ryzen 7 3700X
32GB (4x8) Corsair Dominator Platinum 3200mhz (CMT32GX4M4Z3200C16, wich is QVL certified by asus)
The problem I was having is connected to running all 4 dims populated and also using the PBO Fmax. As soon as I turn on the PBO Fmax, my system hangs/freezes randomly while idling (mostly). The only way to get stability was to use 2 ramsticks and refrain from using PBO Fmax, wich I simply refused to settle with.
Some times it could run prime 5 hours straight (small, large or blended FFTS, doesn´t matter) without a problem, rendering movies, looping game benchmarks and all other loads I throw at it without any problems. And then 15 mins after I stop the torture, while the rigg is idling it just freezes up completely. And other times the rigg was on for 36hours days without any problems and all of a sudden while streaming a movie it freezes/hangs again. A couple of times it even froze during booting the os.
YEAH YEAH I KNOW !! :-) ....I could just have turn off the Fmax and be done with it. But my cpu and system is responding really well to it performance wise, and I actually got really nice clocks out of my cpu. And also it bugged me that others could run just fine with Fmax and my system wouldn´t.
So I just had to figure out what it was and why.
So I have tried all bios from 0039 up until the latest 2702.
I have played around and tested almost every days since the 0039 bios was released.
Trying out suggestions in this thread, high and low. Turning on and off "Global c-states", "DF c-states", playing around with diffirent "scalar" and and trying 0-200mhz, different LLC, different voltage settings (vcore, vsoc, vddg e.t.c) and trying different current limits e.t.c. I´ve also been trying out different kind of ram settings and even remove 2 of the sticks to eliminate the possibility of 4-stick ram incompatibility. I just couldn´t get it stable !
And then, a couple of days ago the 3003 bios was released, and of course I had to try that one to, not actually thinking it would make any difference.
But lo and behold, so far it´s still holding it´s own, no hangs, freezes or other hick-ups.
I´ve spent the last couple of days lowering and fine tuning the relevant voltages and settings
So far it´s been stable..holding my fingers crossed.
So yeah bios 3003 did the trick for me at least !
Unless I need to, due to cpu-upgrade, I won´t be touching the bios any time soon.Last edited by mrazster; 12-11-2020 at 10:13 AM.
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12-12-2020 06:28 AM #3
RedSector73 PC Specs Laptop (Model) FA506IU-AL130T x 2 Motherboard ROG CROSSHAIR VIII HERO (WI-FI) Processor AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor Memory (part number) 4 x G.SKILL F4-3800C14D-16GTZN 14-16-16-36 Samsung B-Die Graphics Card #1 Gigabyte Aorus RTX 2080 Ti Xtreme WaterForce (GV-N208TAORUSX W-11GC) Sound Card Arctis DAC Monitor Asus ROG Swift PG348Q Storage #1 ADATA SX8200PNP 1TB Storage #2 2 x Samsung SSD 840 EVO 250GB CPU Cooler Coolermaster Liquid Pro Master 360 Case EVGA DG-87 Gunmetal Grey Gaming Case Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750W Gold Power Keyboard Corsair K95 RGB Platinum Mouse Corsair Gaming Sabre RGB Gaming Mouse Headset ARCTIS Pro Wireless Mouse Pad Cooler Master MP750 RGB Cloth Gaming Mouse Pad Extra Large OS Windows 10 64bit Pro Network Router RT-AC87U
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Another stable release with nothing to complain about. ASUS finally releasing BIOS faster than others .... LOVE it !
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12-12-2020 11:50 AM #4
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Crosshair Hero VIII (WiFi)
I've seen some complain over on Overclock[dot]net. As much as i'd love to have a perfectly stable BIOS, I'm forced to hold off and see what everyone says about it because there's been so many unstable versions. Another complaint I saw was a decrease in benchmarking performance.
How is this update treating everyone that has dared to try it? Any gains in workloads or gaming? Better stability?
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12-12-2020 04:09 PM #5
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Thumb up for me... only thing I had to raise 0.01v of my DRAM to make them stable.
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12-12-2020 05:59 PM #6
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So my motherboard LEDs are dead unless I run armorycrate... How do I run those again without having to download the worlds most **** software forced upone me?
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12-12-2020 06:20 PM #7
Baio73 PC Specs Motherboard Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Formula BIOS 3402 Processor AMD Ryzen 3900XT Memory (part number) 2x8 Corsair 4000C19D Graphics Card #1 Sapphire RX 5700XT Monitor LG 34GK950F Storage #1 Samsung 980PRO 512Gb NVMe Storage #2 WD Black SN850 2Tb NVMe CPU Cooler Corsair H150i Elite Capellix Case Lian Li 011D XL Power Supply Corsair AX860i Keyboard Logitech G513 Mouse Logitech G903 + Powerplay Headset G933 Artemis Spectrum Mouse Pad Corsair MM 700 RGB Headset/Speakers Logitech G560 OS Windows 10 64bit Network Router Lynksys EA6500 Accessory #1 Corsair Commander Pro Accessory #2 10xCorsair QL120 RGB fan
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12-12-2020 08:22 PM #8
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Well of course.. bios 2502, 2702 and 3003 ... nothing happens. Bios turning it on or off is also unavaible..
So yeah I'm fairly pissed.
Downloading just aura sync doesnt boot at all and just shows FF - Fault found on the qled code.
So 3003 bricked my motherboard since I went from 2702 to 3003 and tada its gone.
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12-12-2020 08:38 PM #9
Baio73 PC Specs Motherboard Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Formula BIOS 3402 Processor AMD Ryzen 3900XT Memory (part number) 2x8 Corsair 4000C19D Graphics Card #1 Sapphire RX 5700XT Monitor LG 34GK950F Storage #1 Samsung 980PRO 512Gb NVMe Storage #2 WD Black SN850 2Tb NVMe CPU Cooler Corsair H150i Elite Capellix Case Lian Li 011D XL Power Supply Corsair AX860i Keyboard Logitech G513 Mouse Logitech G903 + Powerplay Headset G933 Artemis Spectrum Mouse Pad Corsair MM 700 RGB Headset/Speakers Logitech G560 OS Windows 10 64bit Network Router Lynksys EA6500 Accessory #1 Corsair Commander Pro Accessory #2 10xCorsair QL120 RGB fan
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12-12-2020 09:33 PM #10
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I'm pretty sure the only change in the BIOS is listed above "resize-able bar", which is nothing more than enabling SMART ACCESS MEMORY, which is AMD's term for it if you have a 6000 series card AND a Ryzen 5000 series CPU paired together. That is most likely why there was nothing else listed in the comments. As far as the "yet another release" mentality, I would much rather get frequent BIOS releases for an premium board, rather than some other manufacturer's boards I have owned that rarely, if ever, got a new BIOS release. I'm a fan of companies actually supporting their products. If you don't know what Smart Access Memory is, it's plastered all over AMD's web site.