Asus Crosshair VIII 3101 Beta Bios out !

[xeizo]

Hi Xeizo,
what kind of boost are you talking about?
I didn't see any differences from 2206 and later bios versions.
The main advantage in later bioses is the PBOE function, wich enables my cpu to achieve the publicized 4600Mhz, and i get a serious performance boost enabling it!

But my system, with later bioses, does not reach fclk>1600Mhz anymore.

I'm mainly talking about Ryzen 5000 and their happy boost to 5150MHz, with CO, which possibly is problematic. You run Ryzen 3000 so you are not affected much.
I run FCLK 1900 on C8H, C7H and B550-F using the latest AGESA 1.1.9.0, I wouldn't say FCLK is worse, but I had to change some settings.

[Sprayingmango]

Anyone else worried that ASUS pulled the Beta bios from the Dark Hero support downloads page???

[Belatar]

hi,

i got my viii hero (non-wifi) with bios version 2702 already installed. i had all sorts of stability issues (bsod, random application crashes) that i could track to the docp mode of my G.Skill Trident Z RGB DIMM Kit 32GB, DDR4-4000, CL16-19-19-39 (F4-4000C16D-32GTZR) ram.
the issues happened about every 5 minutes with docp enabled (including triple restart loops after enabling docp in the bios) and went away when disabling docp and running the sticks at 2133mhz (default).
i did not change any other bios settings than docp, everything else is on default. i run a the latest windows 10 version with a 3080 gaming x trio and a corsair force mp600, all drivers and firmwares up to date.
looking forward to a bios version that enables my rig to run at full performance in a stable way.

kind regards,
bela

[xeizo]

hi,

i got my viii hero (non-wifi) with bios version 2702 already installed. i had all sorts of stability issues (bsod, random application crashes) that i could track to the docp mode of my G.Skill Trident Z RGB DIMM Kit 32GB, DDR4-4000, CL16-19-19-39 (F4-4000C16D-32GTZR) ram.
the issues happened about every 5 minutes with docp enabled (including triple restart loops after enabling docp in the bios) and went away when disabling docp and running the sticks at 2133mhz (default).
i did not change any other bios settings than docp, everything else is on default. i run a the latest windows 10 version with a 3080 gaming x trio and a corsair force mp600, all drivers and firmwares up to date.
looking forward to a bios version that enables my rig to run at full performance in a stable way.

kind regards,
bela

The chip only supports 3200MHz memory, anything above is OC and can't be guaranteed. Also DOCP support is sketchy. The best way to run fast memory is to do the settings for timings/subtimings yourself in the bios, you probably won't reach 4000MHz as only platinum sample CPU:s can do that without downclocking IF to half, but you can reach 3733MHz-3800Mz. Or you should reach that with such fine memory. Don't expect push one button OC, you need to do some research for yourself. The supported 3200MHz is probably very easy achievable, just turn off DOCP, set FCLK to 1600MHz, memory 3200MHz, memclk=uclk, VDIMM to 1.35V and the you can probably leave all the DRAM settings to Auto and let memory training do it's job during boot.
If you wants to clock higher Ryzen Dram Calculator by 1usmus is a great tool to find good settings, you need to use Taiphoon Burner first to get your exact ram specs and then feed them into RDC as a html/xml-file.
If you have a Zen 2 you can also use Clock Timer for Ryzen also by 1usmus to get most of the job automated, Zen 3 support will come soon

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/cl...y-1usmus).html

I personally don't use these tools, I just play with the bios

[DrSlump76]

I'm mainly talking about Ryzen 5000 and their happy boost to 5150MHz, with CO, which possibly is problematic. You run Ryzen 3000 so you are not affected much.
I run FCLK 1900 on C8H, C7H and B550-F using the latest AGESA 1.1.9.0, I wouldn't say FCLK is worse, but I had to change some settings.

Hi Xeizo,
please can you explain what "CO" is meaning for? Thanks
What kind of boost is the new agesa enabling for ryzen 3 series? Are we talking about some timing tightening?

By the way, when i said that my system is no more able to past 1600Mhz i meant at default settings. With 2206 bios my syste can reach 1800Mhz without any manual adjustment , it's as easy as enabling DOCP .

[polyh3dron]

Anyone else worried that ASUS pulled the Beta bios from the Dark Hero support downloads page???

Hoping this just means a new non-beta version is ready to roll out. I reverted to 3003 anyways to be safe.

[Belatar]

The chip only supports 3200MHz memory, anything above is OC and can't be guaranteed. Also DOCP support is sketchy. The best way to run fast memory is to do the settings for timings/subtimings yourself in the bios, you probably won't reach 4000MHz as only platinum sample CPU:s can do that without downclocking IF to half, but you can reach 3733MHz-3800Mz. Or you should reach that with such fine memory. Don't expect push one button OC, you need to do some research for yourself. The supported 3200MHz is probably very easy achievable, just turn off DOCP, set FCLK to 1600MHz, memory 3200MHz, memclk=uclk, VDIMM to 1.35V and the you can probably leave all the DRAM settings to Auto and let memory training do it's job during boot.
If you wants to clock higher Ryzen Dram Calculator by 1usmus is a great tool to find good settings, you need to use Taiphoon Burner first to get your exact ram specs and then feed them into RDC as a html/xml-file.
If you have a Zen 2 you can also use Clock Timer for Ryzen also by 1usmus to get most of the job automated, Zen 3 support will come soon

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/cl...y-1usmus).html

I personally don't use these tools, I just play with the bios

the cpu is a 5900X and amd itself states that 4000mhz is the "sweet spot" performance wise for the zen 3 cpus, thats why i bought it. the board is advertised with supporting up to 4800mhz and the ram of course should be able to support its own advertised speed. so i do not understand where using the manufacturer provided docp settings should be out of spec for cpu, board or ram.

[xeizo]

Hi Xeizo,
please can you explain what "CO" is meaning for? Thanks

Curve Optimizer, it's menu is only activated with a Zen 3 CPU, can make a big difference

[xeizo]

the cpu is a 5900X and amd itself states that 4000mhz is the "sweet spot" performance wise for the zen 3 cpus, thats why i bought it. the board is advertised with supporting up to 4800mhz and the ram of course should be able to support its own advertised speed. so i do not understand where using the manufacturer provided docp settings should be out of spec for cpu, board or ram.

You must have missed all the "OC" marks, OC is OC and not guaranteed, it's "up to" - in the best case scenario

[DrSlump76]

Curve Optimizer, it's menu is only activated with a Zen 3 CPU, can make a big difference

Ah ok, i didn't know, i will study this feature.
So, given the fact that my cpu is a 3900X how would you explain my problems raising up fclk for bioses from 2311 to the latest one?

Thanks!