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02-23-2021 11:49 AM #1
EncodeGR PC Specs Motherboard Asus ROG Maximus XIII Hero Processor Intel Core i7-11700K Memory (part number) Kingston HyperX Predator RGB 32GB (4x8GB) DDR4 3600MHz CL17 Memory Kit - Black (HX436C17PB4AK4/32) Graphics Card #1 MSI GTX 1070Ti Gaming X 8GB Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster Z Monitor Dell Ultrasharp U2520D 25" QHD IPS Storage #1 Samsung 980 Pro M.2 Nvme PCIe 4.0, 500 GB Storage #2 Samsung 970 Evo Plus M.2 Nvme PCIe 3.0, 1 TB CPU Cooler Noctua NH-U12A Case Phanteks Enthoo Evolv X Glass - Black Power Supply Asus ROG Thor 850W Platinum Keyboard Logitech G915 TKL Lightspeed, Tactile Mouse Razer Basilisk V2 Headset Sennheiser Game-Zero Headset Mouse Pad Asus ROG Sheath XL Headset/Speakers Logitech Z333 2.1 Speakers OS Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Accessory #1 Noctua NF-A14 PWM (x6) Accessory #2 Phanteks Halos Lux Accessory #3 Phanteks Neon Digital-Rgb
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[Z590] Asus ROG Maximus XIII Hero - PCH High Temperature
My PCH temperature is fairly high, which concerns me. I'm used to everything else in my system being pretty chilly, usually around 28-30 C. The airflow is also really good. The *only* thing that gets hot is the PCH, and i don't understand why.
-- Some Backround Info, Setup --
Intel Pentium G6400 4.0GHz (Lol, well... until i get my Rocket Lake chip)
MSI GTX 1070Ti Gaming X (Until i actually manage to find a 3080/3070, if ever...)
HyperX DDR4 32GB 3600Mhz XMP CL17 (4 x 8 GB)
Asus ROG Maximus XIII Hero (Z590)
Asus ROG Thor 850 Plat
Samsung 980 Pro M2. NVMe PCIe 4.0 500GB (installed in M2.2_2, cpu bound)
Noctua NH-U12A
Noctua NF-A14 PWM (x6)
-- Things i've tried --
- Updated Drivers. Updated ME FW. Updated BIOS.
- Inspected PCH heatsink and thermal pad and resit. No change.
- Removed M.2 NVMe drive and GPU. No significant change.
- Checked the PCH 1.8v VCCIN voltage, stable 1.8v.
- Made sure nothing is "overclocked", using XMP, or enhanced in any automatic way.
- Lowered VCCIO and VCCSA to 1.10v, since automatic was pushing both to 1.40 for some reason !! (CPU weak memory controller ?). No change.
** I need to mention i couldn't find the PCH Core Voltage, anywhere in the settings. No idea why.
-- PCH Temperature --
PCH temperature starts at 35-38 C, during a cold boot. During the next 5 minutes it climbs and stabilizes at 56 - 62 C, while IDLING.
And that's with a system without GPU, or M.2 NVMe drive. Just the CPU and its iGPU which stay at 24 C, cooled by a Noctua NH-U12A. With a fully assembled system and under load it goes up to 70 - 80 C.
Now... The only thing i have not tried yet, is to completely remove the plastic ROG-logo cover, on top of the PCH, as it may be severely suffocating the heatsink, restricting the airflow towards it.
That would explain the temps under load, but i'm not sure if that explains the initial fast-climbing temperatures while idling. And honestly, without the cover the LEDs underneath it are blinding, so the Aura lighting needs to be completely disabled. Could this be a flawed design ?? I doubt.
I don't understand what's wrong. I've seen people reviewing this mothereboard, while reporting PCH idle temps at 35C and 55C under load. I know that right now, it's not gonna cause any sort of damage. I am however concerned about the longevity and a possible degredation over time, thinking that my PCH is at 75-80 C while gaming.
Sorry for the long post, had to make sure everythong's covered.
Any help would be appreciated
-- HWInfo & HWMonitor -> 3 minutes after cold boot --
-- Bios Monitor -> 10 minutes after cold boot --
Last edited by EncodeGR; 02-23-2021 at 05:09 PM. Reason: Added System Monitoring Screenshots
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02-23-2021 08:04 PM #2
Zardoc PC Specs Motherboard TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4 Processor Intel Core i7-12700K 12 (8P+4E) Cores, 20 Threads 5 GHz, Memory (part number) G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Graphics Card #1 ASUS Dual GeForce RTX™ 2070 OC edition 8GB GDDR6 Clock 1410 MHz Memory Clock 1750 MHz Sound Card Onbard Realtek 4080 Monitor LG 27UK850-W 27'' 4K UHD IPS Storage #1 Samsung 980 pro M.2 256 GB Pcie Gen 4.0 Storage #2 Samsung 970 Evo M.2 2280 2tb Pcie Gen3. X4 CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition Case Corsair Carbide Series 175R RGB Tempered Glass Mid-Tower Power Supply Corsair AXi Series AX860i Digital 860W 80 PLUS Keyboard Logitech K800 Mouse Logitech 705 Headset/Speakers Klipsch THX OS Win 11 Pro Network Router Asus RT-AC86U
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That's not normal. I would submit a ticket. It just may need a bios update but I can't say for sure.
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02-23-2021 08:57 PM #3
EncodeGR PC Specs Motherboard Asus ROG Maximus XIII Hero Processor Intel Core i7-11700K Memory (part number) Kingston HyperX Predator RGB 32GB (4x8GB) DDR4 3600MHz CL17 Memory Kit - Black (HX436C17PB4AK4/32) Graphics Card #1 MSI GTX 1070Ti Gaming X 8GB Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster Z Monitor Dell Ultrasharp U2520D 25" QHD IPS Storage #1 Samsung 980 Pro M.2 Nvme PCIe 4.0, 500 GB Storage #2 Samsung 970 Evo Plus M.2 Nvme PCIe 3.0, 1 TB CPU Cooler Noctua NH-U12A Case Phanteks Enthoo Evolv X Glass - Black Power Supply Asus ROG Thor 850W Platinum Keyboard Logitech G915 TKL Lightspeed, Tactile Mouse Razer Basilisk V2 Headset Sennheiser Game-Zero Headset Mouse Pad Asus ROG Sheath XL Headset/Speakers Logitech Z333 2.1 Speakers OS Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Accessory #1 Noctua NF-A14 PWM (x6) Accessory #2 Phanteks Halos Lux Accessory #3 Phanteks Neon Digital-Rgb
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Yeap, already submitted one.
I'm very sceptical. I mean not only the PCH temp is high and PCH voltage is shown as 1.704v which sounds crazy, but also the motherboard also applied 1.40v to both VCCIO and VCCSA by default automatically (even without XMP), and 1.40v is way too much. I had to lower them manually to 1.10v. I don't understand what's going on, it's like the board's Bios and auto settings are over-reacting.
Could this be caused by the very low end Pentium G6400 ? Cause the board was definitely not designed to work with such a low end CPU. But shouldn't it be able to ? I don't know... I mean, i will replace it soon with Rocket Lake chip, i just don't want my board to get degradation or any sort of damage by then.Last edited by EncodeGR; 02-23-2021 at 09:11 PM.
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02-23-2021 08:58 PM #4
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RMA? or try to check thermal paste for your chipset manually .
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02-24-2021 12:18 PM #5
EncodeGR PC Specs Motherboard Asus ROG Maximus XIII Hero Processor Intel Core i7-11700K Memory (part number) Kingston HyperX Predator RGB 32GB (4x8GB) DDR4 3600MHz CL17 Memory Kit - Black (HX436C17PB4AK4/32) Graphics Card #1 MSI GTX 1070Ti Gaming X 8GB Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster Z Monitor Dell Ultrasharp U2520D 25" QHD IPS Storage #1 Samsung 980 Pro M.2 Nvme PCIe 4.0, 500 GB Storage #2 Samsung 970 Evo Plus M.2 Nvme PCIe 3.0, 1 TB CPU Cooler Noctua NH-U12A Case Phanteks Enthoo Evolv X Glass - Black Power Supply Asus ROG Thor 850W Platinum Keyboard Logitech G915 TKL Lightspeed, Tactile Mouse Razer Basilisk V2 Headset Sennheiser Game-Zero Headset Mouse Pad Asus ROG Sheath XL Headset/Speakers Logitech Z333 2.1 Speakers OS Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Accessory #1 Noctua NF-A14 PWM (x6) Accessory #2 Phanteks Halos Lux Accessory #3 Phanteks Neon Digital-Rgb
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The RMA process seems way too complicated for that period due to COVID. I would say 1-2 months, maybe more, to get it replaced, and i need my computer for my job.
I've already stated in the original post that i've already checked the heatsink which as i said has a thermal pad, and i did re-sit it.
Thermal paste is not an option since there is a gap between them, thus the thermal pad.Last edited by EncodeGR; 02-24-2021 at 12:21 PM.
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02-24-2021 12:51 PM #6
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02-24-2021 01:07 PM #7
EncodeGR PC Specs Motherboard Asus ROG Maximus XIII Hero Processor Intel Core i7-11700K Memory (part number) Kingston HyperX Predator RGB 32GB (4x8GB) DDR4 3600MHz CL17 Memory Kit - Black (HX436C17PB4AK4/32) Graphics Card #1 MSI GTX 1070Ti Gaming X 8GB Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster Z Monitor Dell Ultrasharp U2520D 25" QHD IPS Storage #1 Samsung 980 Pro M.2 Nvme PCIe 4.0, 500 GB Storage #2 Samsung 970 Evo Plus M.2 Nvme PCIe 3.0, 1 TB CPU Cooler Noctua NH-U12A Case Phanteks Enthoo Evolv X Glass - Black Power Supply Asus ROG Thor 850W Platinum Keyboard Logitech G915 TKL Lightspeed, Tactile Mouse Razer Basilisk V2 Headset Sennheiser Game-Zero Headset Mouse Pad Asus ROG Sheath XL Headset/Speakers Logitech Z333 2.1 Speakers OS Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Accessory #1 Noctua NF-A14 PWM (x6) Accessory #2 Phanteks Halos Lux Accessory #3 Phanteks Neon Digital-Rgb
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I'm sorry, what i meant was that the whole cover with the ASUS logo is made of plastic (compared to the other metalic heatsinks).
The actual pch heatsink is below (making no contact with the plastic). I find that weird, since the plastic Asus logo thingy completely surrounds and suffocates the PCH, and blocks any airflow.
Taken two screenshots from a Youtube video. They should explain how things are a bit better:
Last edited by EncodeGR; 02-24-2021 at 01:19 PM.
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02-24-2021 01:55 PM #8
Zardoc PC Specs Motherboard TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4 Processor Intel Core i7-12700K 12 (8P+4E) Cores, 20 Threads 5 GHz, Memory (part number) G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Graphics Card #1 ASUS Dual GeForce RTX™ 2070 OC edition 8GB GDDR6 Clock 1410 MHz Memory Clock 1750 MHz Sound Card Onbard Realtek 4080 Monitor LG 27UK850-W 27'' 4K UHD IPS Storage #1 Samsung 980 pro M.2 256 GB Pcie Gen 4.0 Storage #2 Samsung 970 Evo M.2 2280 2tb Pcie Gen3. X4 CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition Case Corsair Carbide Series 175R RGB Tempered Glass Mid-Tower Power Supply Corsair AXi Series AX860i Digital 860W 80 PLUS Keyboard Logitech K800 Mouse Logitech 705 Headset/Speakers Klipsch THX OS Win 11 Pro Network Router Asus RT-AC86U
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Last edited by Zardoc; 02-24-2021 at 02:03 PM.
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02-24-2021 02:02 PM #9
EncodeGR PC Specs Motherboard Asus ROG Maximus XIII Hero Processor Intel Core i7-11700K Memory (part number) Kingston HyperX Predator RGB 32GB (4x8GB) DDR4 3600MHz CL17 Memory Kit - Black (HX436C17PB4AK4/32) Graphics Card #1 MSI GTX 1070Ti Gaming X 8GB Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster Z Monitor Dell Ultrasharp U2520D 25" QHD IPS Storage #1 Samsung 980 Pro M.2 Nvme PCIe 4.0, 500 GB Storage #2 Samsung 970 Evo Plus M.2 Nvme PCIe 3.0, 1 TB CPU Cooler Noctua NH-U12A Case Phanteks Enthoo Evolv X Glass - Black Power Supply Asus ROG Thor 850W Platinum Keyboard Logitech G915 TKL Lightspeed, Tactile Mouse Razer Basilisk V2 Headset Sennheiser Game-Zero Headset Mouse Pad Asus ROG Sheath XL Headset/Speakers Logitech Z333 2.1 Speakers OS Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Accessory #1 Noctua NF-A14 PWM (x6) Accessory #2 Phanteks Halos Lux Accessory #3 Phanteks Neon Digital-Rgb
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Those photos are not mine. I have removed all thin films from the heatsinks (white) as well as their base (blue).
What the first photo shows, is the M.2 metal heatsink, merged with the plastic PCH cover.
The sesond photo just shows the pch metal heatsink.
That plastic cover goes on top of the PCH heatsink, essentialy blocking all airflow. No idea why they designed it like that.
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02-24-2021 03:51 PM #10
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Hello everybody,
I also bought an Asus ROG Maximus XIII Hero (Z590) and can also see that the PCH temperature is very high (74 degrees)
I currently use:
Intel I9 10900kf
Gigabyte RTX3090
2 Samsung 970 EVO Plus in M2.2_3 M2.2_4 (RAID 0)
Corsair DDR4 32GB Kit 4600 CL18
But I see PCH temperature twice .. What is for what.
Regards
PiT
temp after 1h Fortnite
Last edited by pitderbeste; 02-24-2021 at 03:57 PM.