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02-24-2021 04:17 PM #11
KotOr368 PC Specs Motherboard Apex IX,X,XI,XII,XIII Processor i7-7,8Gen,i9-9,10,11Gen Memory (part number) F4-3200C14D-32GTRS Graphics Card #1 EVGA 1080Ti FTW3 Monitor ASUS PG278QR Storage #1 Intel SSD 545s Storage #2 Mx500 2TB + Segate 4TB CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D15s Chroma Case Fractal Design Meshify 2 TG Dark Power Supply Seasonic 850W Titanium Keyboard HyperX Alloy Origins Mouse A4tech BLOODY J95 Headset HyperX Cloud OS W10 x64
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I don't know how precise is HWinfo for new Z590 series. But i assume that PCH VCCin is same as for Z490 (I have) PCH core. And on Z590 you have 1.8V and my Z490 have 1.040-1.060V. I think that is crazy different just for PCH. Asus screw this or Intel is scumbag with PCIe GEN4. But maybe Asus in past i saw people that have protective plastic on thermal pad from factory on VRMs or just Asus use too small thermal pad for good coverage. Then talk about hot.
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02-24-2021 06:03 PM #12
EncodeGR PC Specs Motherboard Asus ROG Maximus XIII Hero Processor Intel Core i7-11700K Memory (part number) Kingston HyperX Predator RGB 32GB (4x8GB) DDR4 3600MHz CL17 Memory Kit - Black (HX436C17PB4AK4/32) Graphics Card #1 MSI GTX 1070Ti Gaming X 8GB Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster Z Monitor Dell Ultrasharp U2520D 25" QHD IPS Storage #1 Samsung 980 Pro M.2 Nvme PCIe 4.0, 500 GB Storage #2 Samsung 970 Evo Plus M.2 Nvme PCIe 3.0, 1 TB CPU Cooler Noctua NH-U12A Case Phanteks Enthoo Evolv X Glass - Black Power Supply Asus ROG Thor 850W Platinum Keyboard Logitech G915 TKL Lightspeed, Tactile Mouse Razer Basilisk V2 Headset Sennheiser Game-Zero Headset Mouse Pad Asus ROG Sheath XL Headset/Speakers Logitech Z333 2.1 Speakers OS Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Accessory #1 Noctua NF-A14 PWM (x6) Accessory #2 Phanteks Halos Lux Accessory #3 Phanteks Neon Digital-Rgb
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Are you sure you have PCH VCCIN 1.0v or PCH Core Voltage ? They are different things.
PCH VCCIN is fine, it should be 1.8v that's the standard. PCH Core Voltage however should be ~ 1.0v, and from my reading it's 1.704v (VIN2 sensor). There is absolutely no control for PCH Core Voltage in Bios though, which is weird.
I also performed more tests.
Removed GPU, removed M.2, removed plastic rog-logo PCH cover. That is the most ideal / cool scenario for the pch.
Temperature still the same, idling at 62 C. Something is really wrong with that board and its Bios.
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02-24-2021 07:07 PM #13
KotOr368 PC Specs Motherboard Apex IX,X,XI,XII,XIII Processor i7-7,8Gen,i9-9,10,11Gen Memory (part number) F4-3200C14D-32GTRS Graphics Card #1 EVGA 1080Ti FTW3 Monitor ASUS PG278QR Storage #1 Intel SSD 545s Storage #2 Mx500 2TB + Segate 4TB CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D15s Chroma Case Fractal Design Meshify 2 TG Dark Power Supply Seasonic 850W Titanium Keyboard HyperX Alloy Origins Mouse A4tech BLOODY J95 Headset HyperX Cloud OS W10 x64
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There is big chance they change name for some reason, but I have Z490 and my chipset voltage is PCH Core and its 1.050V. I don't see any voltage at 1.8V on my motherboard. And if on Z590 chipset voltage is PCH VCCIN 1.8V. That is high and . I own Z170,270,390 and all have PCH 1.050V as standart so why is 1.8V on Z590 ??? That i think is weird.
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02-24-2021 07:14 PM #14
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I'm on the same situation here.
In idle my PCH temp is 54°C and gaming goes all the way higher.
I'm still in stock BIOS that came with the board.
Did you guys find out something? Do you use the newer beta bios?
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02-24-2021 07:21 PM #15
EncodeGR PC Specs Motherboard Asus ROG Maximus XIII Hero Processor Intel Core i7-11700K Memory (part number) Kingston HyperX Predator RGB 32GB (4x8GB) DDR4 3600MHz CL17 Memory Kit - Black (HX436C17PB4AK4/32) Graphics Card #1 MSI GTX 1070Ti Gaming X 8GB Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster Z Monitor Dell Ultrasharp U2520D 25" QHD IPS Storage #1 Samsung 980 Pro M.2 Nvme PCIe 4.0, 500 GB Storage #2 Samsung 970 Evo Plus M.2 Nvme PCIe 3.0, 1 TB CPU Cooler Noctua NH-U12A Case Phanteks Enthoo Evolv X Glass - Black Power Supply Asus ROG Thor 850W Platinum Keyboard Logitech G915 TKL Lightspeed, Tactile Mouse Razer Basilisk V2 Headset Sennheiser Game-Zero Headset Mouse Pad Asus ROG Sheath XL Headset/Speakers Logitech Z333 2.1 Speakers OS Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Accessory #1 Noctua NF-A14 PWM (x6) Accessory #2 Phanteks Halos Lux Accessory #3 Phanteks Neon Digital-Rgb
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I've updated everything. From Bios to the very last firmware / driver.
No change. They don't even include Bios Change Logs.... ._.
Make sure you submit a ticket, this might be a bug with the Bios. I hope a future bios update fixes it.
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02-24-2021 10:46 PM #16
Zardoc PC Specs Motherboard TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4 Processor Intel Core i7-12700K 12 (8P+4E) Cores, 20 Threads 5 GHz, Memory (part number) G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Graphics Card #1 ASUS Dual GeForce RTX™ 2070 OC edition 8GB GDDR6 Clock 1410 MHz Memory Clock 1750 MHz Sound Card Onbard Realtek 4080 Monitor LG 27UK850-W 27'' 4K UHD IPS Storage #1 Samsung 980 pro M.2 256 GB Pcie Gen 4.0 Storage #2 Samsung 970 Evo M.2 2280 2tb Pcie Gen3. X4 CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition Case Corsair Carbide Series 175R RGB Tempered Glass Mid-Tower Power Supply Corsair AXi Series AX860i Digital 860W 80 PLUS Keyboard Logitech K800 Mouse Logitech 705 Headset/Speakers Klipsch THX OS Win 11 Pro Network Router Asus RT-AC86U
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I checked my Strix A wiFi and I have @56 on idle so that is hot without load.
I will also submit a ticket.
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03-04-2021 08:49 AM #17
pitderbeste PC Specs Motherboard Asus Maximus Apex Xiii Z590 Processor Interl i9 11900K Memory (part number) CMK16GX4M2K4600C19 / CMK32GX4M2G4600C18 Graphics Card #1 Gigabyte RTX 3090 Vision OC Monitor Acer KG1 (KG271UAbmiipx) 69 cm (27 Zoll) TN ZeroFrame Storage #1 1 x Samsung 980 Pro 1TB Storage #2 2 x Samasung 970 EVO Pro 1TB CPU Cooler MSI 360r Case Thermaltake Level 20 MT ARGB Mid Tower/Tempered Glass/Mini ITX/Micro ATX/ATX Power Supply Gigabyte P850GM 850W ATX Keyboard GK61 Mechanische Gaming-Tastatur – 61 Tasten RGB Mouse Finalmouse Ninja Air58 Headset Logitech G533 Mouse Pad Glorious PC Gaming Race Stealth Mauspad - 3XL Extended OS Win 11 Pro
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Hello all,
I opened a ticket on Feb. 24th but haven't received any feedback yet, did you get any information yet?
Gruß
PiT
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03-04-2021 09:02 AM #18
EncodeGR PC Specs Motherboard Asus ROG Maximus XIII Hero Processor Intel Core i7-11700K Memory (part number) Kingston HyperX Predator RGB 32GB (4x8GB) DDR4 3600MHz CL17 Memory Kit - Black (HX436C17PB4AK4/32) Graphics Card #1 MSI GTX 1070Ti Gaming X 8GB Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster Z Monitor Dell Ultrasharp U2520D 25" QHD IPS Storage #1 Samsung 980 Pro M.2 Nvme PCIe 4.0, 500 GB Storage #2 Samsung 970 Evo Plus M.2 Nvme PCIe 3.0, 1 TB CPU Cooler Noctua NH-U12A Case Phanteks Enthoo Evolv X Glass - Black Power Supply Asus ROG Thor 850W Platinum Keyboard Logitech G915 TKL Lightspeed, Tactile Mouse Razer Basilisk V2 Headset Sennheiser Game-Zero Headset Mouse Pad Asus ROG Sheath XL Headset/Speakers Logitech Z333 2.1 Speakers OS Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Accessory #1 Noctua NF-A14 PWM (x6) Accessory #2 Phanteks Halos Lux Accessory #3 Phanteks Neon Digital-Rgb
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Hey pitderbeste,
I did receive feedback from both US and Greek Asus Support.
The Greek Asus Support suggested me the following:
They suggested me to RMA the board if it keeps idling higher than 60C, which is completely wrong.
You don't RMA a freaking board for that, and if you do you're going to get a rejection. That makes sense. The guy clearly doesn't know what he's talking about.
The US Asus support however stated the following:
"I am writing this email to provide you an update about your ongoing case. In accordance to the recommendation of our Technical Support Department. The temperature is normal and the PCH Spec can reach a maximum of 108 degrees."
This is a more appropriate answer, as i do know that PCH generally runs hot. My concern was about it running hot while idling. They say that's normal, and to be honest, it kinda looks normal, taking into account the small heatsink it has. It's nowhere near 100C anyway.
Anyway, i replied the following:
"Thank you very much for the information. I do understand that the temperature is considered safe and that i should not worry.
Nevertheless, i would like to replace the thermal pad which sits between the PCH and the heatsink, with an after market high-performance one. So, my last question would be about its thickness.
Could you please inform me about the thickness of the thermal pad on the PCH heatsink ? I would expect it to be 0,5 - 1,5 mm, but it would be really helpful to know the official exact thickness of the thermal pad that was used, as this will ensure proper contact and mounting pressure."
So, i'm going to try to replace the stock thermal pad. I do not expect any crazy change in temps, but regardless, i will give you an update.
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03-14-2021 01:51 PM #19
EncodeGR PC Specs Motherboard Asus ROG Maximus XIII Hero Processor Intel Core i7-11700K Memory (part number) Kingston HyperX Predator RGB 32GB (4x8GB) DDR4 3600MHz CL17 Memory Kit - Black (HX436C17PB4AK4/32) Graphics Card #1 MSI GTX 1070Ti Gaming X 8GB Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster Z Monitor Dell Ultrasharp U2520D 25" QHD IPS Storage #1 Samsung 980 Pro M.2 Nvme PCIe 4.0, 500 GB Storage #2 Samsung 970 Evo Plus M.2 Nvme PCIe 3.0, 1 TB CPU Cooler Noctua NH-U12A Case Phanteks Enthoo Evolv X Glass - Black Power Supply Asus ROG Thor 850W Platinum Keyboard Logitech G915 TKL Lightspeed, Tactile Mouse Razer Basilisk V2 Headset Sennheiser Game-Zero Headset Mouse Pad Asus ROG Sheath XL Headset/Speakers Logitech Z333 2.1 Speakers OS Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Accessory #1 Noctua NF-A14 PWM (x6) Accessory #2 Phanteks Halos Lux Accessory #3 Phanteks Neon Digital-Rgb
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*** UPDATE ***
After playing around in BIOS, i noticed that disabling some functionality and controllers that i don't use, lowered the PCH temperature quite a bit.
More specifically:
(Bios -> Advanced -> Onboard Devices Configuration)
Disabled USB Audio
Disabled WiFi Controller
Disabled Bluetooth Controller
Disabled 2nd 2.5 Gb Ethernet Port
Disabled 34 and 56 SATA Ports
My PCH temperature is now idling ~ 46 - 50 C, compared to 56 - 62 C that was before. Nothing too crazy, but you know, every little bit helps. That is with the GPU 0-RPM feature enabled.
Disabling that feature and running GPU fans at 30% (complitely silent), drops the temperature even more ~ 43 - 47 C, since it creates some airflow around the PCH. I will also replace the PCH thermal pad with a better one soon and give you an update on that as well.
You may want to experiment with such settings in BIOS and see what works for you.
Definitely disable stuff you know you won't need. Less power, less heat.
Have funLast edited by EncodeGR; 03-14-2021 at 04:17 PM.
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03-16-2021 12:48 PM #20
Zardoc PC Specs Motherboard TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4 Processor Intel Core i7-12700K 12 (8P+4E) Cores, 20 Threads 5 GHz, Memory (part number) G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Graphics Card #1 ASUS Dual GeForce RTX™ 2070 OC edition 8GB GDDR6 Clock 1410 MHz Memory Clock 1750 MHz Sound Card Onbard Realtek 4080 Monitor LG 27UK850-W 27'' 4K UHD IPS Storage #1 Samsung 980 pro M.2 256 GB Pcie Gen 4.0 Storage #2 Samsung 970 Evo M.2 2280 2tb Pcie Gen3. X4 CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition Case Corsair Carbide Series 175R RGB Tempered Glass Mid-Tower Power Supply Corsair AXi Series AX860i Digital 860W 80 PLUS Keyboard Logitech K800 Mouse Logitech 705 Headset/Speakers Klipsch THX OS Win 11 Pro Network Router Asus RT-AC86U
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