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    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array martine-dee PC Specs
    martine-dee PC Specs
    MotherboardAsus ROG Maximus XII Extreme
    ProcessorIntel Core i9-10900K
    Memory (part number)G.Skill F4-4000C15Q-32GTZR @ 3600 MHz CL14
    Graphics Card #1Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 3090 OC Edition
    Sound CardCreative Sound Blaster AE-9
    MonitorAsus ROG Swift 360Hz PG259QN
    Storage #1Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    Storage #2WD Red HDD 1TB
    CPU CoolerCorsair Hydro Series H115i RGB Platinum
    CaseTT View 91 Tempered Glass RGB Edition
    Power SupplyCorsair AX1600i
    Keyboard SteelSeries Apex 7, Red
    Mouse Razer Viper 8k @ 3200 dpi
    Headset Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro
    Mouse Pad Logitech G440
    Headset/Speakers Creative Inspire T6300
    OS Win 10 Pro 64bit 2004
    Accessory #1 Logitech Streamcam Webcam
    Accessory #2 Rode NT1-A Mic
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    Quote Originally Posted by kvarq View Post
    I've been there. First step Z590 & 10th, then fully went to Z590 & 11900KF, although it's 2021 and had to go from 10 cores to 8 cores
    Parity errors might be gone, and some stated that 11th is more stable in games, others not... In any case, it matters A LOT the games you play, in few indeed performance and stability is improved. To be honest, in the games I played (AC Creed games, Watch Dogs Legion, RDR2, Cyberpunk 2077, last two Tomb Raider games) performance is a lot worse using a 11th, the lows decreased about up to 15fps using the 11th, and that matters a lot when you're going from 80-ish to 60-65 (1440p).
    PCIE 4.0 did not bring any improvements in daily and gaming use for my 980 Pro and KP 3090.
    Yeah, 11th might be better for DDR4 in some cases, some stuff now is really working, but instead you will have another sh*tshow to live - I think there are threads with issues more than any generation so far for 11th and crappy Z590 (which is already a crap, but also FUBAR by Asus)

    Had a crappy Apex XIII, which is the pinnacle of Asus's incompetence so far - board design itself, BIOS, support etc. which after more than three months of pain I decided it to scrap it (thanks to Asus's marvelous warranty and RMA policies I basically flushed down to the toilet 500 Euros), in the end I went back to XII and 10900K.

    Next one it won't be Asus for sure.
    Apex is weird.

    I remember another user complaining and in the end doing RMA on an M12A. From those stories, it sounds like a sort of gamble. I wouldn't be comfortable taking an Apex mobo, that much I can say.

    Yeah, a low latency 32 GB RAM doesn't really work for me on Z490 with four slots. A kit of 2x 16 GB probably would.
    All in all, I am happy with Z490 and the 10th gen. I am just building a fort because we won't see great hardware in a while. I'd hate it if my CPU died, without replacements available in the market, or the replacements being like an i3-*. Since I am getting a backup, the question is whether I could get better than i9-10900K.
    Last edited by martine-dee; 09-11-2021 at 06:42 AM.
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    ROG Enthusiast Array kvarq PC Specs
    kvarq PC Specs
    MotherboardAsus Apex XII
    Memory (part number)F4-4000C16D-32GTRSA
    Graphics Card #13090 K|NGP|N
    Sound CardSound Blaster Z
    Storage #1980 Pro 2TB
    CPU CoolerThermaltake Ultimate 3.0
    CaseMeshify S2
    Power SupplySeasonic Titanium TX850
    Keyboard Razer Huntsman
    Mouse Razer Viper 8K
    Mouse Pad RAZER Firefly V2
    OS 21H1

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    if still need a back-up, grab another 10900K will do...
    worst case scenario Intel will replace your stuff, it won't be like there will be nowhere to find

    and yeah, we'll keep for a while the gear we have now, at least Alder is a must skip step =))
    DDR5, PCIe 5 and other uncharted territories, that would be a nice $#!show to watch =))

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