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    SVID Behavior needs to be set to "Intel's Failsafe". ASUS defaults are too aggressive and result in BSODs (both in my 11700K and 11900K + ADT). Doing that, ADT works fine regarding stability; but about performance, I'd like to kindly ask @shamino about how does ADT relate to the MCE and CPU Core Ratio settings. (It seems that CPU Core Ratio overrides ADT behavior, for instance.)

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    Here are the updated official and beta bios for Asus Rog Maximus XIII Hero motherboard and the links to download them.

    ROG MAXIMUS XIII HERO 0707 OFFICIAL BIOS

    ROG MAXIMUS XIII HERO 0902 BETA BIOS

    Bye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 74lobster View Post
    Here are the updated official and beta bios for Asus Rog Maximus XIII Hero motherboard and the links to download them.

    ROG MAXIMUS XIII HERO 0707 OFFICIAL BIOS

    ROG MAXIMUS XIII HERO 0902 BETA BIOS

    Bye.
    Hi,

    Well, after some time consuming investigations, it seems that the issue that produces clock.watchdog.timeout freeze is due to the SVID Behavior setting versus hyperthreading one, as follows:

    1. HT: ON and SVID behavior: Intel's Fail Safe. The sytem is stable, no freeze
    2. HT: ON and SVID behavior: auto. The sytem is NOT stable, freeze even under very light load
    3. HT: OFF and SVID behavior: auto. The sytem is stable, no freeze
    4. HT: OFF and SVID behavior: Intel's Fail Safe . The sytem is stable, no freeze

    My conclusion:
    With Bios's until and including 0707, HT can NOT work with SVID behavior: auto
    If one want to use HT it must set the SVID Behavior to Intel's Fail Safe

    In my case, ABT was set to OFF. My feeling is that this setting does not affect the issue in any way

    Regards

    sl91
    Last edited by sl910; 06-03-2021 at 05:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sl910 View Post
    Hi,

    Well, after some time consuming investigations, it seems that the issue that produces clock.watchdog.timeout freeze is due to the SVID Behavior setting versus hyperthreading one, as follows:

    1. HT: ON and SVID behavior: Intel's Fail Safe. The sytem is stable, no freeze
    2. HT: ON and SVID behavior: auto. The sytem is NOT stable, freeze even under very light load
    3. HT: OFF and SVID behavior: auto. The sytem is stable, no freeze
    4. HT: OFF and SVID behavior: Intel's Fail Safe . The sytem is stable, no freeze

    My conclusion:
    With Bios's until and including 0707, HT can NOT work with SVID behavior: auto
    If one want to use HT it must set the SVID Behavior to Intel's Fail Safe

    In my case, ABT was set to OFF. My feeling is that this setting does not affect the issue in any way

    Regards

    sl91
    SVID Behavior: Auto usually sets AC/DC Loadline to 0.01 mOhms, which is the same setting as "best case scenario"
    However the 'Auto' setting's values can be changed by other values in the BIOS (which is the entire point of an "Auto" setting).
    0.01 mOhms for ACLL is very aggressive so it's possible your chip simply can't handle it.

    You can try setting it to 'Typical', which should be about 0.6 mOhms.
    Intel's fail safe is 1.1 mOhms, which is the highest value per spec for that CPU.

    Hyperthreading disabled requires a lot less voltage, thus 0.01 mOhms for AC/DC Loadline may work for you.

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    Thank you for this clarification. My goal is only to built a stable computer using premium hardware with no overclocking hope in mind. Using the Intel's safe setting, the computer works wery well. However, I have observed a new thing. I use Aida64 in order to perform some stress test. When I perform the FPU stress test, selecting AVX and AVX512 options, now Aida stress test stops almost immediatly after starting with a message stating that a hardware failure event occured. In the meanwhile, the computer don't freeze and runs normally. If I change again the Bios setting SVID Behaviour to auto, the FPU Aida64 test works again. Any Idea of what does this mean ? This new issue occurs having the HT ON or OFF.

    Best regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by sl910 View Post
    Thank you for this clarification. My goal is only to built a stable computer using premium hardware with no overclocking hope in mind. Using the Intel's safe setting, the computer works wery well. However, I have observed a new thing. I use Aida64 in order to perform some stress test. When I perform the FPU stress test, selecting AVX and AVX512 options, now Aida stress test stops almost immediatly after starting with a message stating that a hardware failure event occured. In the meanwhile, the computer don't freeze and runs normally. If I change again the Bios setting SVID Behaviour to auto, the FPU Aida64 test works again. Any Idea of what does this mean ? This new issue occurs having the HT ON or OFF.

    Best regards

    sl91
    You just said that the system is unstable with SVID Behavior: Auto in an above post.
    But now you said that AIDA64 stress FPU is stable with SVID Behavior: Auto.
    This seems like a contradiction. Unless what's happening is the light load vcore is too low but the heavy load vcore is fine. I don't know.

    What loadline calibration are you using? Maybe try increasing LLC to Level 4. You can also try using the V/F offset curves and increase the V/F offset voltages for the lower points on the V/F curve graph by about +50mv each.

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    Hi,

    Just to need to understand something. SVID gives the zero load tension table. Isn't it ? If it is, I don't understand why this setting leads to a resistance (0.01 to 1.1mohms). In my mind, the resistance value should be related to the loading line calibration (LLC), i.e the ration betwenn the difference of two tension (zero load-full load) by the max outpout current.

    Best regards

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    Last edited by sl910; 06-06-2021 at 07:24 PM.

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    I have the same problem with my 11900k. CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT when doing random things and no combination of settings I've tried seems to fix it. I've ran out of ideas (except doing an RMA?).
    Last edited by Bluerain; 06-06-2021 at 08:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluerain View Post
    I have the same problem with my 11900k. CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT when doing random things and no combination of settings I've tried seems to fix it. I've ran out of ideas (except doing an RMA?).
    Did you try to switch off HT in the BIOS settings and give it a try for one or two days ?

    Regards

    sl91

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