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11-16-2021 03:42 PM #1
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Asus 3090 Strix OC - Relative Low Power Limit with Ray Tracing ON
Good morning!
Made a short "unlisted" video showing my 3090 Strix OC on Fortnite (Save the World) and whenever Ray Tracing is ON, the card is being held back due to the relative low 390W power limit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsh3wXCfzS4
Notice the "LIM power" on the top left corner of the screen showing that the card won't clock any further than 1770MHz because power limit is exceeded. Whenever I try to push it above 1800MHz it would be a matter of time for it to crash, regardless the game.
Please, consider releasing a VBIOS with a higher power target, because restricting a Strix OC 3090 to clock any higher than 1770MHz on Ray Tracing with graphic settings at medium/low makes no sense, specially when the temperatures are still fairly low and refresh rate is not even reaching 60 FPS.
Thanks in advance!
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11-16-2021 05:13 PM #2
Nate152 PC Specs Motherboard ROG Maximus IX Code Processor i7-7700k 5.2GHz Delidded Memory (part number) 16GB G.Skill Trident Z - 3600MHz 16-16-16-36-2T Graphics Card #1 Titan Xp - EKFC waterblock Graphics Card #2 Titan Xp Sound Card ROG SupremeFX 2015 Monitor HP ZR30w Storage #1 Toshiba VX500 256GB CPU Cooler Swiftech Apogee GTZ Case Thermaltake Armor+ VH6000 Power Supply PCP&C Turbo Cool 1200w Keyboard ROG Falchion NX / Strix Flare II Mouse ROG Chakram X/Chakram Core/Spatha X Headset ROG Delta S Animate Mouse Pad Steelseries Prism XL + ROG Scabbard II OS Windows 11 Home Accessory #1 Asus optical drive Accessory #2 Koolance ERM-2K3U
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Hi koben,
Yep, that's the way it works, hit the power limit or temp gets too warm and clock speeds will drop.
I'm sure you know if you take some load off your ROG Strix 3090 clock speeds will raise. But actually, 57 FPS is pretty good at 4k resolution with ray tracing on. You could leave it there or if you want ray tracing on, lower the resolution a step or two, this should help raise clock speeds and FPS.
You're not the first one to ask for a new Vbios. If enough people ask, they usually listen.Last edited by Nate152; 11-16-2021 at 06:00 PM.
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11-16-2021 05:48 PM #3
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Hello, Nate!
Thanks for being supportive!
The whole issue can be pinned down to a very simple point... turn Ray Tracing ON and sadly, the current power limit of 390W, will hold back this awesome videocard... and it won't matter how low we set other graphics settings.
Funny thing is that Ray Tracing is one of the most advertised features for the 3090 and the Strix OC model was supposed to provide extra power for it to clock higher... this is all falling short due an empirical limit... it is not even a technical restriciton because on the video mentioned above, temps and graphics settings are fairly low, even DLSS is set to performance but still it won't clock beyond 1770MHz and I'm being refrained from achieving the magical 60FPS (which is the refresh rate of my 4K monitor).
Hopefully ASUS will release a new power-buffed VBIOS soon enough so I won't need to shunt-mod the whole card.
Cheers!
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11-16-2021 06:35 PM #4
Nate152 PC Specs Motherboard ROG Maximus IX Code Processor i7-7700k 5.2GHz Delidded Memory (part number) 16GB G.Skill Trident Z - 3600MHz 16-16-16-36-2T Graphics Card #1 Titan Xp - EKFC waterblock Graphics Card #2 Titan Xp Sound Card ROG SupremeFX 2015 Monitor HP ZR30w Storage #1 Toshiba VX500 256GB CPU Cooler Swiftech Apogee GTZ Case Thermaltake Armor+ VH6000 Power Supply PCP&C Turbo Cool 1200w Keyboard ROG Falchion NX / Strix Flare II Mouse ROG Chakram X/Chakram Core/Spatha X Headset ROG Delta S Animate Mouse Pad Steelseries Prism XL + ROG Scabbard II OS Windows 11 Home Accessory #1 Asus optical drive Accessory #2 Koolance ERM-2K3U
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I know you have a 4k monitor, but I would try the resolution at 1920 x 1080 with ray tracing on and see what this gives me, then work it up a step at a time. With ray tracing on, you may have to settle for a happy medium with the resolution to achieve full 60 FPS.
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11-16-2021 07:12 PM #5
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That's exactly what I'm showing in the video... DLSS at "Performance" = running 1080p, then upscaled to 4K.
Once again... graphics settings are already at medium/low and I can't even lower any further without making the game look like it was made in 1990.
Besides, this is not how a STRIX OC card is supposed to behave... it should be on par with the EVGA Kingpin and Galax HOF. This is why people are flashing these cards VBIOSes onto the 3090 Strix, shunting modding it and so on...Last edited by Koben; 11-16-2021 at 07:15 PM.
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11-16-2021 07:29 PM #6
Nate152 PC Specs Motherboard ROG Maximus IX Code Processor i7-7700k 5.2GHz Delidded Memory (part number) 16GB G.Skill Trident Z - 3600MHz 16-16-16-36-2T Graphics Card #1 Titan Xp - EKFC waterblock Graphics Card #2 Titan Xp Sound Card ROG SupremeFX 2015 Monitor HP ZR30w Storage #1 Toshiba VX500 256GB CPU Cooler Swiftech Apogee GTZ Case Thermaltake Armor+ VH6000 Power Supply PCP&C Turbo Cool 1200w Keyboard ROG Falchion NX / Strix Flare II Mouse ROG Chakram X/Chakram Core/Spatha X Headset ROG Delta S Animate Mouse Pad Steelseries Prism XL + ROG Scabbard II OS Windows 11 Home Accessory #1 Asus optical drive Accessory #2 Koolance ERM-2K3U
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You're only 3 FPS shy of 60 FPS, let's see if we can get you there and then some.
Are you able to lower the resolution in the game settings to 2560 x 1440? I see it's set to 3840 x 2160.
I know not as pretty, but should improve performance.
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11-16-2021 07:41 PM #7
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The video is only 54 seconds long... you'll find that at 40 seconds it shows that DLSS is set to "Performance" which means that the game is actually being rendered at 1080P and then DLSS feature is upscalling the result image to 4K with maximum possible performance.
If ASUS would only release a power-buffed VBIOS for this card, nobody would be complaining about it....
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11-16-2021 07:59 PM #8
Nate152 PC Specs Motherboard ROG Maximus IX Code Processor i7-7700k 5.2GHz Delidded Memory (part number) 16GB G.Skill Trident Z - 3600MHz 16-16-16-36-2T Graphics Card #1 Titan Xp - EKFC waterblock Graphics Card #2 Titan Xp Sound Card ROG SupremeFX 2015 Monitor HP ZR30w Storage #1 Toshiba VX500 256GB CPU Cooler Swiftech Apogee GTZ Case Thermaltake Armor+ VH6000 Power Supply PCP&C Turbo Cool 1200w Keyboard ROG Falchion NX / Strix Flare II Mouse ROG Chakram X/Chakram Core/Spatha X Headset ROG Delta S Animate Mouse Pad Steelseries Prism XL + ROG Scabbard II OS Windows 11 Home Accessory #1 Asus optical drive Accessory #2 Koolance ERM-2K3U
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Last edited by Nate152; 11-16-2021 at 08:03 PM.
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11-16-2021 08:04 PM #9
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Mate, if I select a lower resolution where you mentioned, then the "Performance" option on DLSS will be disabled.
What you are asking me to do is already being done... the game is being rendered at 1080p because I'm using the DLSS feature in "Performance" mode!
All of this is even besides the point because this is not how a STRIX OC card is supposed to behave... it should be on par with the EVGA Kingpin and Galax HOF. This is why people are flashing these cards VBIOSes onto the 3090 Strix, shunting modding it and so on...
Please, pass this request to an ASUS representative to be properly evaluated.
Thanks once again!
PS. If I overclock the card any further it will crash due to the power limit is already being exceeded!!
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11-16-2021 08:27 PM #10
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All right,
Was trying to see if we could squeeze a few more frames to get you to 60 FPS.
I'll chalk you up for a Vbios request.