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01-29-2022 04:15 AM #1
mpoffo PC Specs Motherboard Rampage VI Extreme Processor Intel 7900x Memory (part number) G.Skill F4-3200C16Q-32GTZR = 32 GB 3200 Kit Graphics Card #1 EVGA 3090 FTW Ultra Graphics Card #2 Nvidia Geforce 1080 FE Sound Card Sound Blaster Z Monitor X34 Predator + 2 Samsung Aux Monitors Storage #1 Samsung 870 EVO 2 TB/850 Evo 500 GB Storage #2 WD 2 TB & 4TB Black Hard Drives CPU Cooler Corsair H115i Case Corsair 900D Power Supply Corsair 1200i Keyboard Corsair K95 Platinum - RGB Mouse Corsair Dark Core RGB Pro SE Headset Corsair Virtuoso RGB Wireless SE Mouse Pad Corsair MM800 RGB Polaris Headset/Speakers Logitech 5.1 Surround THX Speakers OS Windows 10 Pro - 64 Bit Network Router Netgear Nighthawk (RAX 200) AX11000 Accessory #1 Corsair Comm. w/ Corsair HD Fans - NZXT Hue + Accessory #2 DX Racer King Series Chair Accessory #3 3D Printer/HTC VIVE/Valve Index
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Asus z690 Maximus Hero - Trying to understand best M.2 location
Sorry guys newer to this platform and I would appreciate if someone could confirm some things for me. I am use to a platform with more PCIe lanes.
I just received my motherboard z690 Hero from Newegg (not a recall model). Anyway, I have a few questions about placement and options of the NVME as it relates to the PCIe slots.
If I am understanding things correctly for this board the top M.2 slot uses CPU lanes. So assuming I have a graphics card in the top PCIe slot that would take 16 CPU lanes. If I put a M.2 in the top slot on the board that would take up the 4 remaining CPU lanes, correct? In this config does this mean the 2nd PCIe slot on the mother board is inactive or does it use PCH lanes as well? In addition can the top M.2 two be changed to use PCH lanes vs CPU lanes?
If I put the M.2 in the 2nd or 3rd M.2 slot on the motherboard would that impact the performance of the drive for a Gen 4 WD SN850? I currently do not plan to use the M.2 expansion card.
Finally on a different topic, can I actively use the built HDMI port along side my graphics card to drive a secondary monitor? If so, will be impact performance or downgrade my graphics card to 8x speed instead of 16x?
Thanks for your help. It is greatly appreciated.RVIE X299 System:
Windows 10 Prof 64-bit | Intel Core i9 7900x | ASUS Rampage VI Extreme | Corsair AX 1200i PSU
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Samsung 840 PRO 256 GB | Samsung 850 EVO 500 GB | Intel 520 SATA SSD 240GB HD | 2 & 4 TB WD Black Hard Drive
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01-29-2022 04:39 AM #2
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Can't answer all of that but a few quick answers: You can't change from direct to chipset. It's the way the slot is wired.
My personal opinion is that you will not notice the difference running your SSD through the chipset. It will show up in synthetic benchmarks but unless you have a lot of devices sharing bandwidth on the chipset you won't ever "feel" it.
Using onboard video won't use additional lanes. The only performance concern is that the iGPU does generate heat so if you are overclocking that little bit of extra heat and power usage can cost you. Stock usage you won't notice.* Support disease research with Folding@Home *
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01-29-2022 04:59 AM #3
mpoffo PC Specs Motherboard Rampage VI Extreme Processor Intel 7900x Memory (part number) G.Skill F4-3200C16Q-32GTZR = 32 GB 3200 Kit Graphics Card #1 EVGA 3090 FTW Ultra Graphics Card #2 Nvidia Geforce 1080 FE Sound Card Sound Blaster Z Monitor X34 Predator + 2 Samsung Aux Monitors Storage #1 Samsung 870 EVO 2 TB/850 Evo 500 GB Storage #2 WD 2 TB & 4TB Black Hard Drives CPU Cooler Corsair H115i Case Corsair 900D Power Supply Corsair 1200i Keyboard Corsair K95 Platinum - RGB Mouse Corsair Dark Core RGB Pro SE Headset Corsair Virtuoso RGB Wireless SE Mouse Pad Corsair MM800 RGB Polaris Headset/Speakers Logitech 5.1 Surround THX Speakers OS Windows 10 Pro - 64 Bit Network Router Netgear Nighthawk (RAX 200) AX11000 Accessory #1 Corsair Comm. w/ Corsair HD Fans - NZXT Hue + Accessory #2 DX Racer King Series Chair Accessory #3 3D Printer/HTC VIVE/Valve Index
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Thanks very much xeromist. Your response was very helpful. In my current x299 rig I am using a secondary graphics card along with my 3090. I would like to get by with using just one. I have a 3 monitor set-up plus VR stuff (index). If the speed of the SSD won't be effected that much I might put in the 3rd M.2 slot for now. I am going to try using the onboard sound but have traditionally used a audio card.
The one remaining question I have is the one related to the Secondary PCIe slot if I use the top PCIe and M.2 slot for all 20 CPU lanes. What happens to the second PCIe slot in that instance? If anyone know that answer it would be appreciated.Last edited by mpoffo; 01-29-2022 at 05:59 AM.
RVIE X299 System:
Windows 10 Prof 64-bit | Intel Core i9 7900x | ASUS Rampage VI Extreme | Corsair AX 1200i PSU
Corsair 900D | 32 GB 3200 G.SKILL Trident RGB Series | RTX 3090/EVGA GTX 1080 | Acer X34 Predator Monitor
Samsung 840 PRO 256 GB | Samsung 850 EVO 500 GB | Intel 520 SATA SSD 240GB HD | 2 & 4 TB WD Black Hard Drive
Creative Sound Blaster Z | Logitech THX 5.1 speaker setup
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01-29-2022 09:56 AM #4
Hello,
As per the manual, M.2_1 supports CPU lanes. M.2_2 and 3 utilize chipset lanes. As per Xeromist's post, most drives won't saturate either and the difference will be negligible.
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01-29-2022 10:14 AM #5
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01-30-2022 03:16 AM #6
mpoffo PC Specs Motherboard Rampage VI Extreme Processor Intel 7900x Memory (part number) G.Skill F4-3200C16Q-32GTZR = 32 GB 3200 Kit Graphics Card #1 EVGA 3090 FTW Ultra Graphics Card #2 Nvidia Geforce 1080 FE Sound Card Sound Blaster Z Monitor X34 Predator + 2 Samsung Aux Monitors Storage #1 Samsung 870 EVO 2 TB/850 Evo 500 GB Storage #2 WD 2 TB & 4TB Black Hard Drives CPU Cooler Corsair H115i Case Corsair 900D Power Supply Corsair 1200i Keyboard Corsair K95 Platinum - RGB Mouse Corsair Dark Core RGB Pro SE Headset Corsair Virtuoso RGB Wireless SE Mouse Pad Corsair MM800 RGB Polaris Headset/Speakers Logitech 5.1 Surround THX Speakers OS Windows 10 Pro - 64 Bit Network Router Netgear Nighthawk (RAX 200) AX11000 Accessory #1 Corsair Comm. w/ Corsair HD Fans - NZXT Hue + Accessory #2 DX Racer King Series Chair Accessory #3 3D Printer/HTC VIVE/Valve Index
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Thanks for the follow-up replies. It is appreciated!
RVIE X299 System:
Windows 10 Prof 64-bit | Intel Core i9 7900x | ASUS Rampage VI Extreme | Corsair AX 1200i PSU
Corsair 900D | 32 GB 3200 G.SKILL Trident RGB Series | RTX 3090/EVGA GTX 1080 | Acer X34 Predator Monitor
Samsung 840 PRO 256 GB | Samsung 850 EVO 500 GB | Intel 520 SATA SSD 240GB HD | 2 & 4 TB WD Black Hard Drive
Creative Sound Blaster Z | Logitech THX 5.1 speaker setup
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04-06-2022 11:52 AM #7
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Sorry for the late reply, just found this thread.
The one additional info missing from this discussion is that the PCIe lanes on the Z690 Hero are v5.0, and thus double the speed of 4.0, that is 32GT/s.
I have four M.2 SSDs in the PCIe 4.0 slots, two in motherboard's PCIe 4.0 x4 slots and two in the Hyper M.2 card in PCIe 4.0 slot (x4, x4), only the motherboard M.2_2 PCIe 3.0 slot is free.
AIDA64 reports that my GTX3080Ti is running PCIe 4.0 x16 mode. CPU-Z reports the same and current link speed of 16.0 GT/s.
I expected the mode to be PCIe 5.0 x8, but the speed is identical so I guess the motherboard can switch PCIe generation as needed?Â*
Current generation of graphics cards can't saturate PCIe 4.0 x16 so everything is working at max speed.Â*