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05-01-2022 11:17 PM #1
When we we see a decent bios update so that ddr5 runs in XMP ?
All I’ve experienced with a hero and an extreme z690 board thus far is annoyance and aggro
When will Asus release a bios that actually confirms to its advertised qvl listing ?*
You guys really need to get your act together frankly , it’s damaging your brand *I9 12900KS @ 5.7Ghz
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05-02-2022 02:57 AM #2
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ASUS has always been slow on the BIOS updates. If its on the OVL it should work so long as you aren't mixing kits. Even the exact same sku with multiple kits can mess things up as in if you run 4 sticks, buy a 4 stick kit, not two 2 stick kits of the same sku or worse a different sku. The faster memory gets the more picky it has become. Back in the day it really didnt matter. Now its pretty much imperative.
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05-02-2022 03:19 AM #3
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Through process of elimination I've managed to slowly change a number of things to get this particular set of DDR5 to run XMP on the 1304 BIOS on my STRIX Z690 E. It was freezing randomly. At first I thought it might be something in Win 10, but when I experienced a freeze in the BIOS screen, I knew it probably wasn't windows. Things attempted -
1) Swapping RAM from a kit with Samsung to a Hynix kit. (Sliiighhtt improvement. Still got random freezes.)
2) Lowering DRAM frequency. (No improvement at all.)
3) Turned of ASPM in BIOS (Not sure if this helped or not.)
4) Adjusting DIMM voltage (Slight improvement.)
5) Many changes to fix what seem like native Windows 10 problems in event viewer. (No improvement. Still freezing randomly.)
6) Changing BIOS from 1403 to 1304. (Large improvement. Freezes down to 1 a day if left idle for longer periods at this point.)
7) Turned off C-state in BIOS. (This pushed me past the 24 hour stable mark.)
The odd thing is that memtest wasn't giving me errors. Aida did for the first RAM kit, which I RMA-ed. The 2nd kit had no errors on Memtest, Aida or OCCT, but it STILL froze the machine up during idle, though... Less frequently. When I started messing with Win 10 and the event viewer and started making small changes there, I was also reading heavily on this forum and OC.net... Many were saying the 1304 BIOS was more stable so I flashed that. Luckily it didn't hang in BIOS during the flashing, that would have probably bricked the board.
Finally since I noticed it was only happening when left idle or on very low low intensity tasks, I tried turning off global c-states in the BIOS. That seems to have done it. I hope this helps if anyone is experiencing freezes, it could be particular to the RAM or this particular board, but I thought I'd share for posterity.Last edited by adrianpavee; 05-02-2022 at 04:09 AM.
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05-02-2022 11:32 AM #4
AwenMilano PC Specs Motherboard Asus Z690 Hero Processor I7 12700 KF Memory (part number) G.Skill F5-6000J3636F16GX2-TZ5RK Graphics Card #1 MSI RTX 3080 Ti Suprim X Monitor Asus XG 279Q Storage #1 WD Black SN850 2Tb Storage #2 Team Delta Max 1Tb CPU Cooler Asus Ryujin II 360 Case Cooler Master Cosmos C700M Power Supply Seasonic PX-1000 Keyboard Razer Blackwidow Chroma Overwatch Mouse Corsair Scimitar Headset Steelseries Artics 7 Mouse Pad Razer Manticor Headset/Speakers Swans Hivi M50W OS Windows 11 Education
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05-02-2022 12:05 PM #5
Nate152 PC Specs Motherboard ROG Strix Z690-F Gaming WiFi Processor i7-12700KF Memory (part number) Kingston Fury Beast 16GB (2x8GB) 6000MT/s (KF560C40BBK2-16) Graphics Card #1 ROG Strix 3090 Ti LC OC Sound Card ROG SupremeFX Monitor HP ZR30w Storage #1 Seagate Firecuda 530 1TB CPU Cooler EK Quantum Velocity2 Case Thermaltake Tower 900 Power Supply EVGA Supernova 1600 T2 Keyboard ROG Falchion NX / Strix Flare II/Azoth Mouse ROG Chakram X/Chakram Core/Spatha X/Harpe Ace Headset ROG Delta S Animate Mouse Pad Steelseries Prism XL / ROG Scabbard II/Hone Ace OS Windows 11 Home Accessory #1 2x Swiftech Maelstrom X300 D5 V2 Accessory #2 2x Hardware Labs SR2 560 MP radiators Accessory #3 Lamptron FC-5 V3 fan controller
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I personally go by the memory vendors QVL list.
If you do a search, you can find any major motherboard brand having trouble with DDR5 memory. Being Alderlake is the first generation to support high speed DDR5 memory, I'll agree it could be IMC related.
You can raise a few voltages to see if it will stabilize.Last edited by Nate152; 05-02-2022 at 12:15 PM.
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05-02-2022 04:03 PM #6
Last edited by Silent Scone@ROG; 05-02-2022 at 04:09 PM.
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05-02-2022 04:27 PM #7
Ribellu PC Specs Motherboard Asus Maximus Z690 HERO Processor I7 12700KF Memory (part number) Corsair Vengeance DDR5 2X16Gb 5200Mhz 38/38/38/74 Graphics Card #1 Asus ROG-STRIX-RTX3080TI-O12G-GAMING Monitor Asus VG27AQ Storage #1 SSD Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1T Storage #2 SSD Samsung 960 EVO 500gb CPU Cooler MSI MAG CoreLiquid C240 Case Thermaltake Commander C31 TG Power Supply Corsair HX850 Keyboard Razer Huntsman Tournament Edition Mouse Razer Bazilisk V2 Headset/Speakers Hyper X Cloud Alpha OS Windows 10 Pro 21H2
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Personally since I changed my motherboard and its components, I never had a problem with the XMP profiles, on the other hand I always choose only two DDR sticks and never four, better stability and dual channel.
And I always choose kits compatible with my MB listed on the ASUS QVL website.
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05-02-2022 04:32 PM #8
Not_Enough_Rage PC Specs Laptop (Model) Phhhtt! Motherboard ROG Maximus Z690 Hero Processor Intel i9 12900K Memory (part number) Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR5 32GB 5600MHz Graphics Card #1 EVGA RTX 3090 Ultra Graphics Card #2 Maybe next year. Graphics Card #3 Not likely. Graphics Card #4 You think I`m Mr. Moneybags! Sound Card ROG Supreme FX Monitor Samsung Odyssey G9 49" Storage #1 Samsung 980 Pro NVMe M.2 1TB Storage #2 Samsung 980 NVMe M.2 1TB CPU Cooler EK Quatum Velocity2 and EK Quantum Vector2 + ABP Case Lian Li -011 D- XL Power Supply EVGA SuperNova 1200W P2 Platinum Keyboard Corsair K95 RGB Platinum XT Mouse Razor Deathadder V.2 Headset Just the holes in my head. Mouse Pad Corsair MM300 Extended Headset/Speakers Audioengine 5+ and Audioengine S8 OS Microsoft Windows 11 Home 64Bit Network Router Comcast Cable Pro 1200Mbps
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This is depressing news. I just bought the Asus Z690 Hero board and 32Ghz. (2x16) 5600 DDR5 DIMM`s, three days ago. The memory I bought is an exact match on Asus` QVL list. I hope I do not have problems with posting and XMP when I build this new system.
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05-02-2022 05:02 PM #9
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I'm actually experiencing something similar, but it tends to take about 3 days between freezes for me, and it's almost always happening in the wee hours of the morning. But the truly bizarre thing is that this only started happening about 3 weeks ago; prior to that, my system had stayed up and stable for about 2 months. I've ruled out just about everything else on the system, and now it's running with only a mouse & keyboard plugged in, with bare minimum drivers, which meant uninstalling ESET, Acronis, and Dropbox.
Like you, I suspected everything software first, and I've even gone as far as doing an "in-place upgrade" / reinstall of Windows 11... if this machine still freezes after stripping everything down, I'll give disabling c-states a try. Thanks for the tip!
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05-02-2022 05:22 PM #10
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You're welcome, I'm hope that my amateur attempt proves to be the solution for you as well. So far, past the 36 hour mark, heading to 48 hours soon. I'll probably run some stress tests to make sure after, but it's looking promising. Please share if you're successful... Or unsuccessful.