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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterC@ROG View Post
    Could I ask why some people here are adamant about undervolting their gaming motherboards? Most people are trying to push the performance... and several people are having stability issues, correct? Wondering if anyone here is unhappy due to the stability while undervolting.
    Sorry, but is this question meant seriously? So many people do not overclock his CPU but want undervolt the CPU @default because the CPU don't need so much voltage like the mainboards bang on it! My 12700K is @default absolutely stable with 120mv less. I can use "Best-Case Scenario"under SVID Behavior in the bios.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patland View Post

    I have another WIndows 11 (Release Preview) on another SSD. It get too the 1720 BIOS in the firmware folder. So I have deleted these files.

    I think there are other files to delete. In C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository, I have found a folder named rog-maximus-z690-hero-asus-1720.inf_amd64_6738f3e2532c42ae with in it three files: ROG-MAXIMUS-Z690-HERO-ASUS-1720.CAP, ROG-MAXIMUS-Z690-HERO-ASUS-1720.cat and ROG-MAXIMUS-Z690-HERO-ASUS-1720.inf. I have deleted this folder. But for that you must take control of the FileRepository folder. A little software named TakeOwnershipPro allows to do that.
    This seem to have done it for me, deleting these 3 files. So far no forced 1720 install. I also deleted the firmware entry in device manager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterC@ROG View Post
    Could I ask why some people here are adamant about undervolting their gaming motherboards? Most people are trying to push the performance... and several people are having stability issues, correct? Wondering if anyone here is unhappy due to the stability while undervolting.

    Because

    1. Undervolting can mean higher overclocks. If My undervolt can = 10degrees lower on temps that mean I have the possiblity of a higher overclock before hitting a temp wall.
    2. Even without Overclocking undervolting allows for lower temps which mean cooling fans use reduce RPM and that means less noise.

    In the case of either 1 or 2 I can have a quiet PC when doing desktop stuff and don't mnd some noise at the higher end as when gaming I have headphones on. I have XTU profiles for quick switching depending what I'm doing. For that reason I refuse to flash a bios that is going to increase volts, temp, fan rpm and noise. There is also the fact energy bills going through the roof here so a little undervolt could reduce bills

    Oh and just an FYI I had a replacement GPU on Wednesday after RMA'ing the previous GPU for intermittenat crashes. I just finished undervolting that too. Ran a 3Dmark benchmark for testing an data collection. Have 2 profiles for that too

    1. Desktop use is 0.85v and a 1000Mhz clock. 10-40watts lower for desktop stuff. Actually ran benchwmark for stability testing and that dropped watts by 150, 50%, ok I won't be doing that but it proved it's stable .
    2. Gaming is maxed at 0.95v 1905Mhz clock and it's 41-63 watts compared to stock. lost 1-2 fps in games and I wouldn't even notice using G-Sync.

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterC@ROG View Post
    and several people are having stability issues, correct? Wondering if anyone here is unhappy due to the stability while undervolting.
    No stability issues with my -0.090 undervolt and boosting to 49 on all cores, 12700K. Wasn't ready to upgrade but faulty motherboard and I didn't like the Idea of a used board so coming from a 7700K at 49 on all cores current levels are plenty. Will Overclock higher once games will actually benefit.

    DDR4 XMP profiles are 2272mhz CL19 1.4v and 4000mhz CL18 1.35v and I'm running them at 4000Mhz CL17 1.35v DDR4. first time OC'ing Memory so I'm leaving it there, for now.
    Last edited by Drayco31; 08-26-2022 at 05:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterC@ROG View Post
    Could I ask why some people here are adamant about undervolting their gaming motherboards? Most people are trying to push the performance... and several people are having stability issues, correct? Wondering if anyone here is unhappy due to the stability while undervolting.
    I mean depending on the CPU you can use far less volts than stock and still be stable. Why wouldn't you want to lower temps and power draw ? My CPU can do the same speed with less volts than stock ?? Why wouldn't I want to take advantage of that? These features have been around along time.... Also to overclock the CPU and use less volts? If I were to just change the the all core boost to 5.3 lets say unless I run a fixed voltage (which would make it pointless for me atleast because why put more volts in when the cpu downclocks etc.) I would get even more volts pumped into the cpu than I need. Also the workloads I do the 12900K gets hammered so hard that the temps are out of control even on a custom loop so I have no choice. I have a 480mm and 360 with an EK Magnitude 1700 Block and a stock 12900KS I can hit 100C during my workloads.
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    It's a shame to hear about this voltage bug. Hope they address this in the next version.
    It will be good if future changelog be more detailed/specific rather than just stating 'Improve system stability'

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    Hey was definitely mistaken as it is a full bios and it definitely has some issues with the ring clocks. Back to 1601. But an easy way to uninstall this is to flash back to the bios you want and use driverstore explorer to delete the driver. All i did and it went back to optional in wu. Great piece of software for cleaning out leftovers just make sure to run as admin and check force delete each time. gl

    https://github.com/lostindark/DriverStoreExplorer

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    Rolled back to 1601 on the Strix-A. Too many voltage bugs in 1720, especially with the cache.

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    I'm still offered updates even if 1702 is installed.

    Boot is way slower since this force update. Even if I roll back boot is slower.

    I have the exact same board in another room (same set-up) that did not update bios and the speed issue is not present.
    Can't have more proof than that!!


    What a mess.

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    And don't forget, Z690 for Asus is now old stuff, because Z790 Boards have priority of manpower!

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    What a mess.

    @Asus you need to improve communication with your customers.

    * "Improve System stability" on the bios changelog its not enough! If there is security fixes we need to know as some mod as talked about! I been stable on 1505 and havent updated yet was about to do it from this bios but the whole voltage problem have stoped me, if there is security fixes let us KNOW, I need to keep my system secure.

    * undervoltings is also part of OCing, on GPUs undervolting is massive gains in power usage and temps for a fractional of fps cost or no cost at all, ppl buy better power deliver mobos not to always chase LN2 or whatever scores, ppl also buy them to have more stability run the system cooler when needed but also turn it to eleven when they desired.

    Now that the whole auto bios update has been "fixed" it seems, ppl that got it automatic have workarounds by deleting files or disabling firmware, Asos need to work on the 1720 voltage issues, if the ucode from Intel is doing the Voltage shenanigans we need to know that the issue is being looked up from Intel or atlest that you are passing the feedback to your provider(intel), that you are QAing the problem not turning a deaf ear.

    You guys seem keen to get reports about the automatic updates but not asking for feedback about the 1720 voltage issues, but ppl are giving feedback and you guys aren't responding.

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