BIOS v1720 Compulsory Update Mega Thread

[akgis_]

To clarify, undervolting for the purpose of gaining performance is very difficult - I didn't mean for the sole purpose of lowering temps and fan noise.

Of course, people like what they like, if they want to build a killer system that is focused on silent and cool but not performance, others shouldn't judge. However, buying a 'premium gaming' board with no intention of pushing gaming performance is usually a questionable decision.

Please understand that with Intel own XTU or your own AI suite3 you can create profiles for undervolting at desktop, normal for gaming or slight OC, and extreme for benchmarks!

Most of the time you can undervolt without losing performance but gaining cooler temps/lower power usage that in some cases might lead to higher BOOST clocks!

[Zardoc]

@ MasterC@ROG I must say that I really appreciate you taking users at heart and replying to our grievances. This is really appreciated.

Like I mentioned before, I have been building Asus systems for over 20 years. All my customers have Asus boards. However in the 2010 period I switched to Gigabyte because I thought that Asus was not giving it's customers what they wanted. Unfortunately Gigabyte was worst with beta bios's and never a final updated stable bios.

Of course, people like what they like, if they want to build a killer system that is focused on silent and cool but not performance, others shouldn't judge. However, buying a 'premium gaming' board with no intention of pushing gaming performance is usually a questionable decision.

Well, you are judging aren't you? I don't game. I overclocked in the past but don't have time anymore. I build Asus boards for my customers.

I buy the mid range to high quality boards not for gaming but for durability, accessories and functionality. Some people will buy a Porsche and never go over the speed limit, Others will buy a Bentley for the quality and luxuries.

Sometimes users want a board that's TUF (get the pun) and has all the bells and whistles they need. Good onboard sound, lots of fast USB ports, Wifi (if needed) BT etc.
They don't want to OC. They just want a good steady board that runs fast, boots fast, can connect and transfer fast has great sound.

If Asus wants to gain more credibility with customers, all they have to do is respond like you are doing. Give enough details (not a novel) when putting something out. and show that they are listening when users want answers and provide those answers.

The USB 4080 chip is one of the worst issues that I have seen since I have been using Asus products (the Hero fire thing also but I don't have a Hero board).
That sound chip is such a pain that I sold my board to buy a TUF series with an ALC chip.

It really is so simple but seems so difficult at times.

OH BTW, MoKiChU has been here for a while and is a STAR to Asus but mostly to us users. He works hard, respects users and answers any question thrown at him on top of giving you all the drivers you need.

Great JOB MoKiChU!!!

[trihy]

OC is not the same that was a few years ago, where you could add 500mhz to 1ghz oc. Since Intel pushed their cpus to their limits, bacause amd performance, there is little margin for oc.

I think most people focus on mb features than oc.

[alessast]

OC is not the same that was a few years ago,

Overclocking works very well on my z690 extreme even on bios 1720 when you are using the LLC1 settings from Falkentyne and Roberto from this thread:

https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...king-Solutions

As far as i can see Only Asus found a way with these settings to overclock the 12900k at high frequencies using the lowest voltage possible for the lowest temperatures..

Before i have i followed many 12900k overclocking guides from famous overclockers like SkatterBencher, der8auer, JayzTwoCents and many more...but none worked well..

Only the Falkentyne and Roberto settings worked very well:

LoadLines:

LLC=#1
AC_LL=0.60
DC_LL=1.70

By Core:
P: 54x3 – 53x5 – 51x8
E: 41x4 – 40x8
OCTVB:
+2Boost Profile
Voltage Optimization = Enable

Voltage:
Adaptive Voltage=1.460
IA VR Voltage Limit=1500
VF#11 offset = 1.460 – Native VF# 11 voltage.
*** If needed, use VF# 6 to tune the 51x full load voltage ***

also for OCTVB to work you need to have Advanced/ CPU Power Management/ CPu C states enable.

i customized them a bit for my use case to get just :
5.4 Ghz all cores (full load 51x8)

Adaptive Voltage=1.4
By Core:
P: 52x8 +2 OCTVB Boost Profile

Ecores: disable
to get the cache at 4.7 Ghz

With these settings Asus found a way to get a bad 12900k chip SP 86 like mine to 5.4 Ghz all cores at 1.4v with very low temperatures,
i think it is quite an achievement ,
because the usual overclocking methods do not seem to work well with the 12900k..

using the same settings i can also get 5.3ghz all cores
P: 51x8 +2 OCTVB Boost Profile
without even adding any voltage (around 1.3v),
just leaving Global core SVID voltage on Adaptive + auto
and temperatures are extremely low even on air cooling..

[trihy]

Thats less than a 10%. Its great for this gen. But oc was much better than that some years ago.

[carlisle97]

Latest BIOS on Z690-P Prime D4 is 1620, probably same as 1720 but for Prime series and there are problems with Voltage control as well: Global SVID Adaptive (in this example) V/F Offset Points are just ignored. Downgraded to 1603 with the same BIOS settings and everything works fine. I reported it to Asus Support but their reply was irrelevant.

We will investigate, thanks for reporting it.

Voltage problems also present on recent updated BIOS 1620 too (Z690 Prime), I guess it's related to the same issues on 1720 @MasterC@ROG

[troopergr]

Asus Strix Z690-F owner here and all bios after 1403 are complete trash, constant blue screens. I tried 1720 and it seemed ok but I got a blue screen after a couple of days during a game. So I tested RAM using karhu and got an error. I tried to change some settings in bios, (more volts etc) but things got worse.

So eventually got back to 1403 and no memory errors whatsoever, everything is rock stable.

Ram is Gksill 6000-CL40, cpu 12900k.

[DigitalDreams]

I was just about to update to 1720, I'll hold off for now !

I'm still on 1504 (Z690-A Gaming WIFI D4) and only have an issue with the bios not waking my monitor from sleep if I'm not fast enough switching on the pc (hence the dreaded bright white led), yet Windows always does when it boots so must be a bios issue !

[curthard89]

This was absolutely horrible, 1720 utterly sucks (and was forced today on me).

After rolling back to 1401 (amazing), next reboot installed the bloody 1720 again.

The only way I managed to get this to stop happening is:

1. Let it install 1720
2. Once back into windows, goto Device Managed, Firmware -> System Firmware -> Driver -> Rollback (which by looks of it just writes something in the reg and probably deletes the update)
3. Reboot and rollback bios to 1401
4. Get back into BIOS set all my undervolt and XMP
5. Reboot back into windows, check device manager has no update for the System Firmware
6. Back to gaming

This was all on W10, hope this helps someone.**

[Carlyle2020]

Kindly call it what it is: a simple bios update and don't dumb it down to:

WE ARE NOT APPLE USERS !