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    Quote Originally Posted by ClearedIn2Bravo2 View Post
    Interesting, I've had 0 issues so far. Stable BIOS for me. I'll be sticking with this for awhile.
    Are u able to use adaptive mode for core and cache ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raybantracing View Post
    only asus mobo can be 100% stable under stress tests for days and hangs on boot the next day.
    never seen this problem on other boards.
    OS Stability and memory training are two separate entities. If the system cannot pass POST stress tests then the settings are still too conditional.

    The easiest way to think about this is if the system did boot after partially passing training, it would be unstable. If you want to learn more about memory training rather than pointing fingers based on no basis whatsoever, try reading application notes from the various companies that produce equipment to monitor or measure eye diagrams for timing signals.
    Last edited by Silent Scone@ROG; 11-30-2022 at 12:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClearedIn2Bravo2 View Post
    @Shamino thanks for this new beta BIOS for Z690 Hero. Finally have 7200 CL34 A-Die TeamGroups stable on the board with default "XMP Tweaked" and auto everything. Excellent work.
    Hi,

    Is this the default speed or is it overclocked?

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    Hi everyone !

    I'm running a 13900kf, ROG STRIX Z790-F GAMING and a GSKILL 7600 cl36 kit.
    All bios I have tried so far are quite unreliable. I have first changed System Agent voltage to 1.15v as some suggested. It helped a little but could not get any 7600 XMP setting stable. Then, I tried 7400 cl34 45 45 115 at stock voltage (SAV still at 1,15) and passed a 7 hour RAMtest test. I rebooted and tried a second test with the exact same settings to confirm the first result : it failed within 5 minutes at 300%...
    I have tried a lot of different settings for a whole week in order to get a stable "overclock" and coherent results but I could not.

    For now, I am testing 7200 cl34 and it seems more stable. It never fails within two hours of testing. Decreasing system agent voltage to 1.135v seems to help even more in my case. I'm going to try 1.12v to see if it improves further.
    On another note, I updated INTEL ME firmware and MEI drivers to the latest but it did not help at all with stability.
    So far, bios 803 seems to be the most stable and efficient one (I tried 703 and 804).

    Anyway, thank you all for your help, I am really looking forward to downloading next BIOS versions as I would like to run my kit at rated speed and be 100% stable.

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    Recalculate SP on z790 Max boards without removing the chip

    Hello Silent Scone@ROG,

    Thanks for the test bios and all the effort you do. The ability to calculate and recalculate the MC SP for the z790 maximus boards was helpful.

    I was wondering if it is possible to add the ability to recalculate the overall SP(and P/E cores). I believe you can do that if you update the bios and take the chip out and put it back in.

    For example, if I change my cooling solution to a full loop but don't take the chip in and out again, then it does not recalculate the SP, even with a whole different setup.

    Or would this situation not matter at all and it is fused to the die?

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    But why the new 2203 bios set the ring at 5GHz by default?

    Is 5GHs achievable by all CPUs?

    Previous bioses set that ring at 4.6GHz max.

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    Found my issue

    Quote Originally Posted by ExtremeSuperRampageCJ View Post
    I noticed that on BIOS 0088, my 3090 operates at PCIe 4.0 x8 instead of x16. I switched to the second BIOS on my motherboard, which was set to 0401, and the issue went away. However, that BIOS will not boot my 7600 kit at 7600 (regardless of timings), whereas 0088 boots (via "XMP Tweaked") and is stable with some minor voltage tweaking. So something is off with BIOS 0088 regarding the PCIe bandwidth. This will be problematic for a 4090 running at low resolutions, which is something I will be doing for benchmarking purposes.
    This ended up being my PCIe riser cable somehow. Even though it worked in bios 0502 it just wouldn't in any newer release. I figured it was my last available option to troubleshoot and hey-ho an alternative worked fine, bought a new one and that works too.

    Didn't think it was my issue as I could get it to work in 0502 but it threw me a curve ball. Anyway, problem solved

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    Z790 Hero with 13900k + kit 6000 64gb (1 kit)

    0031 - pretty stable, but with some games (like the latest NFS Unbound) pretty often shows bluescreen.
    0803 - looks stable, but rise my temp to +20C over 0031 bios with the same settings (adaptive power -0.09v).

    Currently, the ASUS Z790 Hero system is too unstable to use for games, only web browsing is not crashing...

    P.S. Board is not working well, too; it always 403 or 500... need to re-send the message 4-5 times for success... I'm disappointed...
    Last edited by yobzhik; 11-30-2022 at 07:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yobzhik View Post
    Z790 Hero with 13900k + kit 6000 64gb (1 kit)

    0031 - pretty stable, but with some games (like the latest NFS Unbound) pretty often shows bluescreen.
    0803 - looks stable, but rise my temp to +20C over 0031 bios with the same settings (adaptive power -0.09v).

    Currently, the ASUS Z790 Hero system is too unstable to use for games, only web browsing is not crashing...

    P.S. Board is not working well, too; it always 403 or 500... need to re-send the message 4-5 times for success... I'm disappointed...
    Interesting, because I've been pounding the crap out of my z790 Hero, other than the 0804 being mega flaking on increasing the power draw/temps, 0803 has been fine, don't think it's as good as 0802 was, 0802 was drawing even less power than 0803 with the same settings, but gaming wise it's been completely stable.

    I am running different ram than you though: G.Skill Trident Z5 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MHz CL36 (36-36-36-96, 1.35V), I'm just using the XMP II setting.

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    Graphics Card #13090ti
    Sound CardGoXLR + GoXLR Mini
    MonitorDell 32' + AGON 32'
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    Storage #2Gygabyte 7000 2tb
    CPU CoolerCustom waterloop
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    Quote Originally Posted by schoolofmonkey View Post
    Interesting, because I've been pounding the crap out of my z790 Hero, other than the 0804 being mega flaking on increasing the power draw/temps, 0803 has been fine, don't think it's as good as 0802 was, 0802 was drawing even less power than 0803 with the same settings, but gaming wise it's been completely stable.

    I am running different ram than you though: G.Skill Trident Z5 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MHz CL36 (36-36-36-96, 1.35V), I'm just using the XMP II setting.


    Mine is G.Skill Trident Z5 64GB (2x32GB) 6000MHz CL32 (32-38-38-96, 1.4v).
    Currently, I'm able to stabilize the system only by disabling Efficient cores (all of them). Additionally - the same adaptive power to -0.09 (less than 0.12 causing some problems).

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