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    ROG Guru: Green Belt Array JohnAb PC Specs
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    Quote Originally Posted by kvarq View Post
    so let's say that you don't have windows yet, obviously you're updating bios (the flash way etc) before installing windows
    it's also possible possible updating firmware w/o windows
    for instance, for GSAT (for ram testing) you don't even need windows...

    then what: installing windows and putting the MEI drivers, then reinstall FW and bios again?
    I don't know how to update the firmware without Windows, but I agree it should be possible. You only need to install the firmware once as it is flashed to the motherboard until updated again (you only need to install the BIOS once as well). I would do the ME updates in Windows myself, then you can install the Windows drivers first, which is the best way to do it.

    So in your case, I would do this:

    1) Install Windows 2) ME WIndows drivers 3) ME Firmware and finally 4) Update BIOS

    After that, if you want to reinstall Windows again, you will only have to install the Windows ME drivers (until updates are available of course)

    Note: If you flash the BIOS first, then without the Windows drivers and ME firmware, NVME slot M.2_1 might not be recognised until ME is updated. So put your OS drive in a different slot to do the setup. After that, you can move it back to M.2_1 if you want to. It might work anyway, but some people have experienced that on the 690 boards.

    Does that make sense?
    Last edited by JohnAb; 11-23-2022 at 03:48 PM.
    Z690 Hero, BIOS 2204, ME Firmware 16.1.25.2020, Corsair 7000X Case, Corsair RM1000x PSU, i9 12900K, ASUS TUF OC 3090TI, 2 x 16GB Corsair RAM @ 5200MHz, Windows 11 Pro 22H2, Corsair H150i AIO Cooler, 4x Corsair RGB fans, 3x M.2 NVME drives, 2x SATA SSDs, 2x SATA HDs, 2x 4K monitors.
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  2. #162
    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array kvarq PC Specs
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    Last edited by jrok96; 11-24-2022 at 10:22 PM.

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    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array Carlyle2020 PC Specs
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    Some pins i may have to cut short manually on the backside

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    ROG Guru: Orange Belt Array Braegnok PC Specs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlyle2020 View Post
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    Some pins i may have to cut short manually on the backside
    Perhaps after you buy a few more Asus Z790 motherboards your wallet will be lighter and the Z790 Apex board will level out a bit.

  6. #166
    ROG Guru: Green Belt Array iBruceypoo PC Specs
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    Mr. M15A just arrived.

    Super-flat PCB no bending at all.

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    Last edited by iBruceypoo; 11-25-2022 at 06:33 PM.
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    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array kvarq PC Specs
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    noice
    is it booting XMP )

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    ROG Guru: Green Belt Array iBruceypoo PC Specs
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    Quote Originally Posted by kvarq View Post
    noice
    is it booting XMP )
    Mounting the CPU water block backplate - gonna be awhile before I know.

    All you fine gents been doing well?

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    Gskill 7600 mem kit - TM5 stable at 8000MT/s 34 46 46 121 VDD and VDDQ 1.5v
    Gen 5 SSD Coming Soon

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    mine arrived today in ohio as well. So far have been afraid to open the box! Has anyone from asus responded yet about the bent boards?

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    ROG Guru: Green Belt Array iBruceypoo PC Specs
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    MotherboardROG Maximus Z790 Apex
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    Memory (part number)F5-7600J3646G16GX2-TZ5RK
    Graphics Card #1Nvidia RTX A2000 12GB workstation card
    MonitorLG 32in 2560x1440 32QN650-B
    Storage #1WD_Black SN850 500GB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD
    Storage #2Intel Optane PCIe Add In Card 280GB SSD
    CPU CoolerEK Quantum Magnitude HWL SR2 280mm Aquacomputer PWM D5 2Noctua 140mm PWM Industrials
    CasePrimochill WetBench SX Pro test bench
    Power SupplySeasonic TX-700 fanless titanium
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    That white build aesthetic - cables and fittings is outstanding.

    Those Titan Rig custom cables, wow!

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    Last edited by iBruceypoo; 11-25-2022 at 07:15 PM.
    Z790 Epiphenomenal Raptor Bench

    ROG Z790 Apex / Intel 13900KS SP 111 SP-P 121 SP-E 93
    Gskill 7600 mem kit - TM5 stable at 8000MT/s 34 46 46 121 VDD and VDDQ 1.5v
    Gen 5 SSD Coming Soon

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