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    Hows this build sound and i need tips

    I just been wondering whether or not to go build something with a xspc raystorm block but i dont wanna have to spend 300on just processor.
    so I'm either adding a EK liquid for rive or a GTX680 block
    so many options
    I dunno im gonna try and do so GPU voltage HOTWIRE with an asus card and alot of overclocking on that 3930k

    3930k
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    samsung 256gb 6gb sata
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    GTX680 690 or 670 maybe 7970 ASUS VGA HOTWIRE model
    =$2500ish
    then
    whatever thisd cost
    KILLER card?
    xspc Raystorm copper 2011,EK RIVE block, corsair dominator block later if i get that ram or h100 or something

    and maybe 3 Acer S232HLAbid Black 23" Full HD HDMI LED

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    and is peltier cooling anytihng i should look into?

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    tatmMRKIV, what exactly is your question? Do you need help to design the cooling system?

    The hardware you listed, seems a pretty good choice for OC'ing.

    Do your homework on the memory kit (compatibility) as it will affect your overall OC potential - actually if OC is your main goal you should consider less RAM, like 2X4GB, but very high frequency (of course, you can have 4x4GB too, or even higher, but it will cost...).

    Personally, i don't like HDDs with too high capacity - if there's a failure, you're loosing a lot. But it's your call...

    Now, regarding the cooling part.
    Let's start with the end - forget the peltier cooling! As nice is it sounds, as suck can be... The biggest problem with it is that can cool below ambient temp, which means that you will have condensations. You have to be very dedicated to deal with that...

    As I see, you're going water cooling way - good choice, I like it! A main question you have to answer yourself is if you want a closed kit or a custom loop? The closed kit (as the H100 is) is simply to use, but cools only the CPU - and usually their efficiency is more closer to the top air coolers, way below the custom loop's efficiency.

    The XSPC Raystorm and the RIVE block pushes toward a custom loop. Getting a waterblock for the RAM is OK, but don't expect too much from it... If you have a limited budget, focus more on the graphic card selection and a block for that! If you're budget is really tight, just forget the custom loop, it can get expensive...

    You didn't mention anything about the radiator(s)... Don't forget, those are dissipating the heat. How many of them you want (it depends on how many components you want to cool)? Which is your case, will those rads fit in? Or you want an external cooling?

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    well as for all Im using it for I want to do crazy gaming multitasking and learn overclocking with something that i knw i wont kill. I might do extensive 3d rendering down the line. and it needs me to last for years plus my outdoors tempurature is up to 130 so if anything goes wrong ambient is like 74-85s about i need some crazy cooling also I kinda wanna get a case
    And i hear closed loops kinda suck but i was considering doing a air setup or a basic closed loop for the processor and then adding on later
    As far as radiators atleast 2 120 3lengths max thickness I been playing around configuring at frozencpu.com . so big as i can fit on to a reasonably priced quality case i can find.
    and ssd is for cad, steam and boot drive maybe server and the samsung 830 is supposedly the best
    i was thinking if id need to do 2 seperate res's and pump/radiator setups for the processor and graphics card with the mobo block on there somewhere? (i figure if i get a beast RIVE i better protect it with liquid and i know im gonna play with that cpu)
    i will probably add a second graphics card down the line.

    any case suggestions

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    it might be in a 90degree room even
    and id get a 125$gpu block and then some compression 1/2-3/4compression fitting with tygen
    gonna do a red black theme

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    you have to remember, if you watercool it you will never get under the room temp.
    your water will always be over the room temp (whit a few F ) or around room temp, depending how you cool it.
    i dono how it would be to put the case close to an A/C? if you have one ( if you live alone ( but this is only a guess nothing else ) )
    and if its safe or not to do so i can not say.
    since i have no A/C you have to ask another person from the US if so or if they can come up whit a solution on how to keep it cooled

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    Quote Originally Posted by tatmMRKIV View Post
    it might be in a 90degree room even
    and id get a 125$gpu block and then some compression 1/2-3/4compression fitting with tygen
    gonna do a red black theme
    At those room temps, I would suggest you to get an A/C! Not for your computer, but for you... And I'm serious with this!

    Have you considered an external radiator? You could get a very big one with a lot of fans... - but still won't get you below ambient temp...

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    ,lol i have one thats what the 75-85 is
    but i was wondering about external
    and thats exactly why i was asking about peltiers. there are phase change systems too...
    i think i should put the radiator inside my mini fridge and have it in loop right bfore processor and vga then lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by tatmMRKIV View Post
    ,lol i have one thats what the 75-85 is
    So, you have an A/C and your room temps still vary in that big range (even getting 90)?! I'm telling you, humans were not designed for higher room temps than 76-78... Anything above it is considered heavy physical work... even if you're just sleeping at that temps...

    When I said external, I meant one with a big radiator and with a lot of fans - but still at ambient temps. Anything which cools below the ambient temperature will cause the humidity from the air to precipitate (condensate) on the cooler surfaces. At that point will start your problems... Isolating a complete system from condensations is a pain in the ..., even for the LN2 usage people isolate their stuff only temporarily, not for long period of times...

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    so what ur saying is if i start OCing i should turn my ac down to 70?

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