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    New monitor and cables should be here today. Hoping to this get sorted out soon.

    I am feeling good about this cable after reading the following amazon review.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/cr/B0017...cr_electronics

    Exactly as expected. High quality end connectors and, as expected, pin 20 has NOT been connected between the ends. I went through a number of different venro's DP cables and it seems so many are just straight-through connectors with pin 20 active. This is outside the spec and will cause the PC to not boot and sometimes the display to not work correctly given power is passed from both devices to one another creating a short inline. Under the spec, pin 20 shoudl only be used on cabled that are connected to slave devices seeking power from the host. This is a rare situation and a situation where a special cable is usually made for the situation. In this case, this cable is correct and pin 20 does not pass between teh devices.

    I am going to have to use the Mini-Displayport to Displayport Female adapter that came with the MSI cards but oh well.

    I will post a update once when I get home from work and get some testing done.
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    Let us know if that helps.

    The DC leakage situation needs to be eliminated from this completely.

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    I agree, before I do any other testing I want to get this cable issue corrected to rule the cables out.
    I could be fighting 2 things here driver issues and bad cables.
    Last edited by HK-47; 09-11-2012 at 01:18 PM.
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    Just want to ask, since I'm under water and don't want procede with the same steps as HK-47. Is their a possible way my MiniDP to DVI adapters are leaking?

    Thanks

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    Turn off your system, unplug from power, turn on your monitors, measure the voltage while the system is turned off, I mean there won't be anything else pumping power into the cards atm, safe the monitor ( if it does that is). Your cards will be sitted in the system, but I bet you can reach towrds the points where you need to measure the volts

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    Are the active adapters USB powered? If so depending on how you have the bios configured for your motherboard the adapters will be powered off when the system is shut down.

    You could use a USB phone charger to supply power to the dongles with the system powered off and the monitors on then measure with the cards in place depending on how much room is in your case. The points to check are pretty tiny and I wouldn't suggest poking around in there with the system powered on. So if they are USB powered you will need to find a alternate way to power them up If you plan on testing without removing your video card.

    Another option is Enigizer sells emergency USB battery packs that are disposable. They carry them at Wal-Mart and most CVS stores. Or you can power them from a laptop USB ports if you have one.
    Last edited by HK-47; 09-11-2012 at 05:28 PM.
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    New cables checked out ok.

    Installed card back into my system running tests now.

    Update:
    So far so good. I have my son playing left for dead 2 for me while I work on some stuff. Last test I did on this game it would crash quickly. That was on one monitor with bad displayport cables plugged in or eyefinity. I jumped right into testing with eyefinity so far 40 min and no crash.

    I am going to let him play for awhile while I work. I have to play some BF3 later tonight with the clan since the new patch dropped.

    My plan is to reboot pc after gaming then run Heaven + Aida64 over night.
    So far though stuff is looking good. I am sure my power company will love me this month!!

    Also I was bored at work and I decided to read some more on displayport standards. Correct me if I am wrong but it looks like the Mini-Displayport was designed by Apple and was not put into the standards until displayport 1.2 specs If you read the standards prior to 1.2 it states the cable must have a diffenrent connection on one end when pin 20 in being used. So I am wondering if the confusion is for cable being made prior to 1.2 standards they are connecting pin 20 because of the Mini-DP connector on one side of the cable.

    A lot of this cable confusion could be corrected by the card manufactures as well. My card was supplied with a Mini-DP to DP adapter. Prior to the adapters and manuals being designed they could eliminate pin 20 from the adapter and state in the quick connection diagram what cable needs to be used. This way even if the cable had pin 20 connected it would not matter. Down the road if pin 20 needed to be used it would be available to be used. This is a big engineering mishap and I am wondering how many people are having issues because of a simple DP cable.

    Well not a big mishap but a large oversight at best...

    A video of junior still playing LFD2. A little grainy but filmed with a Iphone!



    This is the longest he has played this in eyefinity!

    BTW the new maps on BF3 are amazing!
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    Hope it will hold, if you can run a 10 hours Unigine Test, I call it a win.

    On my side, I still have no luck trying the remaining possibilities. I am clueless. I decided to take the week to test each cards individually under 24 hours Unigine. Like you said HK-47, the power company will love us. ( I work for them here in Qc )

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK-47 View Post
    New cables checked out ok.

    Installed card back into my system running tests now.

    Update:
    So far so good. I have my son playing left for dead 2 for me while I work on some stuff. Last test I did on this game it would crash quickly. That was on one monitor with bad displayport cables plugged in or eyefinity. I jumped right into testing with eyefinity so far 40 min and no crash.

    I am going to let him play for awhile while I work. I have to play some BF3 later tonight with the clan since the new patch dropped.

    My plan is to reboot pc after gaming then run Heaven + Aida64 over night.
    So far though stuff is looking good. I am sure my power company will love me this month!!

    Also I was bored at work and I decided to read some more on displayport standards. Correct me if I am wrong but it looks like the Mini-Displayport was designed by Apple and was not put into the standards until displayport 1.2 specs If you read the standards prior to 1.2 it states the cable must have a diffenrent connection on one end when pin 20 in being used. So I am wondering if the confusion is for cable being made prior to 1.2 standards they are connecting pin 20 because of the Mini-DP connector on one side of the cable.

    A lot of this cable confusion could be corrected by the card manufactures as well. My card was supplied with a Mini-DP to DP adapter. Prior to the adapters and manuals being designed they could eliminate pin 20 from the adapter and state in the quick connection diagram what cable needs to be used. This way even if the cable had pin 20 connected it would not matter. Down the road if pin 20 needed to be used it would be available to be used. This is a big engineering mishap and I am wondering how many people are having issues because of a simple DP cable.

    Well not a big mishap but a large oversight at best...

    A video of junior still playing LFD2. A little grainy but filmed with a Iphone!



    This is the longest he has played this in eyefinity!

    BTW the new maps on BF3 are amazing!

    Please keep us updated on progress

    Maybe post the part number of those Belkin cables if they turn out to help.

    -Raja

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    I rebooted the PC last night after playing BF3. I played Sniper Elite V2 for about 30 min and I got a screen freeze.

    I rebooted the PC by holding down the power button. Loaded up Aida64 stress test and launched Heaven full screen eyefininty. I woke up and it was still running. I left it running while I am at work. I will report back when I get home.

    About Sniper Elite V2 I am unsure why it is freezing. All other stuff seems stable... One thing I did notice though after rebooting the PC. In CCC crossfire tab it shows 3 gpu's enabled with card numbers. After I rebooted the numbers changed. I noticed this awhile back as well when installing new drivers crossfire is enabled by default. When you reboot the card numbers change after the first reboot with a clean driver install.

    I am wondering if there is a driver issue with the clocks down clocking to desktop frequency while gaming. I noticed this while playing BF3 gpu's down clocking to 500 MHz when at menus after matches. With bad cables I am wondering if this down clocking is causing the crashes. And the bad cables putting voltage back into the card amplified the crashing or even damaged the cards.. I am going to try the asus test bios when I get home that has 925 fixed freq that don't down clock.

    If that don't work I am going to RMA the cards one at a time.

    The cables I am using:
    Belkin F2CD000b10-E Displayport male to Displayport male cable.
    Along with the Mini-Displayport to Displayport Female adapter that was included with the video cards.
    Last edited by HK-47; 09-12-2012 at 02:11 PM.
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