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    I would always suggest a clean Windows OS installation.
    Many of us here in the Forums did this, and are happy with the result.
    Also, just install the essential drivers at first, for a day or two, to test
    if the laptop is trouble-free. Then you may install and test ASUS' peripheral
    applications (bloatwares) that you need, one at a time.

    Here's a list of the essential drivers by Brody:
    Intel chipset driver
    Intel RST
    Intel MEI (Windows Update will eventually install this, if you don't want to do it manually)
    Nvidia graphics driver
    Realtek Ethernet driver
    Realtek multi-card reader driver
    Fresco USB driver
    Wireless adapter driver
    Realtek HD Audio driver
    Bluetooth driver (if applicable, if wanted)
    Touchpad driver
    ATK Package

    You can find the drivers here: http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread...s-and-How-to-s
    (As some of the drivers listed on the link are older, you may install the latest drivers from their own respective sites.)
    The Windows 7 Home Premium w/SP1 Integrated ISO link here: http://msft.digitalrivercontent.net/win/X17-24209.iso

    For ASUS bloatwares, I installed only the Power4Gear Hybrid, Virtual Camera, and USB Charger.
    For hardware upgrades, you would be doing your laptop a favor if you upgrade your HDD into an SSD,
    and the problematic Atheros Wi-Fi card into a better one (e.g. Intel Wi-Fi card).
    ASUS G74SX-3DE

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    i have the same g74sx and i also did a clean install, after switching to a ssd with any new vga driver i get a long black boot up , so i had to try some of the older ones now im running 268,37 and my boot up time is very low 17 seconds , but if i change my vga driver up again to any new one my boot up time goes up almost to a whole minute, try it you will see that it works.
    G74SX-BBK8
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    120GB KINGSTON HYPER X SSD
    INTEL CENTRINO ULTIMATE-N 6300

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    Hi, gilbert. I referenced to the OP about the thread where you mentioned
    about your laptop's peculiarity (my post #6). I understand your case is different.

    But we know that newer nVidia driver updates also makes the later games (and other programs)
    better, supposedly. So, I'm curious on how the newer games (if ever you play them) play on the
    nVidia 268.37 version. Aren't you complaining about their playability?.. Aren't there any problem/s at all?..
    ASUS G74SX-3DE

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    Quote Originally Posted by PILGRIM View Post
    Hi, gilbert. I referenced to the OP about the thread where you mentioned
    about your laptop's peculiarity (my post #6). I understand your case is different.

    But we know that newer nVidia driver updates also makes the later games (and other programs)
    better, supposedly. So, I'm curious on how the newer games (if ever you play them) play on the
    nVidia 268.37 version. Aren't you complaining about their playability?.. Aren't there any problem/s at all?..
    i really don't play that many games, i have Super Street Fighter 4 and Darksiders 2 thats it , and they play great , my laptop is super fast everything works no blue screen no errors at all , but i did scored in the 9600 in 3dmark vantage with stock clocks in the 348,79 driver and in the lows 8995 with 268,37 , but im sticking with the 268,37 because everything works perfect for me , and if i ever want/need to benchmark i can easily install the 348,79 driver . (stick with what works)
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    120GB KINGSTON HYPER X SSD
    INTEL CENTRINO ULTIMATE-N 6300

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    Quote Originally Posted by PILGRIM View Post
    I would always suggest a clean Windows OS installation.
    Many of us here in the Forums did this, and are happy with the result.
    Also, just install the essential drivers at first, for a day or two, to test
    if the laptop is trouble-free. Then you may install and test ASUS' peripheral
    applications (bloatwares) that you need, one at a time.

    Here's a list of the essential drivers by Brody:
    Intel chipset driver
    Intel RST
    Intel MEI (Windows Update will eventually install this, if you don't want to do it manually)
    Nvidia graphics driver
    Realtek Ethernet driver
    Realtek multi-card reader driver
    Fresco USB driver
    Wireless adapter driver
    Realtek HD Audio driver
    Bluetooth driver (if applicable, if wanted)
    Touchpad driver
    ATK Package

    You can find the drivers here: http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread...s-and-How-to-s
    (As some of the drivers listed on the link are older, you may install the latest drivers from their own respective sites.)
    The Windows 7 Home Premium w/SP1 Integrated ISO link here: http://msft.digitalrivercontent.net/win/X17-24209.iso

    For ASUS bloatwares, I installed only the Power4Gear Hybrid, Virtual Camera, and USB Charger.
    For hardware upgrades, you would be doing your laptop a favor if you upgrade your HDD into an SSD,
    and the problematic Atheros Wi-Fi card into a better one (e.g. Intel Wi-Fi card).
    Thanka PILGRIM. Just my curiosity, what difference does it make if I upgrade to better Wi-Fi card? Does it actually improve the performance? Or it just has better Wi-Fi connection? I also thought of getting SSD but then the booting time of my hard drive isn't that bad (about 30 seconds) until I had a clean installation. I wanted to wait until Black Friday to see if SSD will drop its price a bit more.

    You mentioned you had Virtual Camera and USB Charger installed. What do those 2 do? I don't really understand the use of Virtual Camera. And USB charger, isn't it just charging your electronic devices like phone or ipod?

    One last question, does WIndows 7 Home Premium and Ulitimate make a really big difference in performance? I was thinking of buying a genuine Windows 7 Ulitimate, but if these two aren't that much of a difference, I'll stick with Home Premium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeEang View Post
    Thanka PILGRIM. Just my curiosity, what difference does it make if I upgrade to better Wi-Fi card? Does it actually improve the performance? Or it just has better Wi-Fi connection? I also thought of getting SSD but then the booting time of my hard drive isn't that bad (about 30 seconds) until I had a clean installation. I wanted to wait until Black Friday to see if SSD will drop its price a bit more.

    You mentioned you had Virtual Camera and USB Charger installed. What do those 2 do? I don't really understand the use of Virtual Camera. And USB charger, isn't it just charging your electronic devices like phone or ipod?

    One last question, does WIndows 7 Home Premium and Ulitimate make a really big difference in performance? I was thinking of buying a genuine Windows 7 Ulitimate, but if these two aren't that much of a difference, I'll stick with Home Premium.
    The stock Atheros Wi-Fi was glitchy. Wi-Fi connection was slower.
    It even made my offline game (NBA 2K12) to hang/freeze in-game.
    Changed it with the much better Intel 6230 Wi-Fi card and never looked back ever since.
    Don't know,.. perhaps the Atheros card works better now with a newer driver?

    As our fellow member, fostert, used to say, having an SSD for our G74 is the best upgrade
    we can do for it. The HDD is the bottleneck for the G74's optimal performance.

    Which reminds of that Virtual Camera. I haven't used the G74's camera for ages..
    Why do I still have that utility?.. That's right, the USB Charger is for phone-charging.
    Point is, use any of the ASUS utilities (bloatwares) that are personally deemed useful.

    I've used both Windows Home Premium (currently installed) and Ultimate.
    No noticeable difference in performance, big or small, IMO..
    Only thing with Ultimate (and Pro version) is that it allows the G74 to upgrade
    the RAM all the way up to 32 GB. I have 16 GB RAM on my system.
    And I say it's already an overkill as per my computer usage.
    ASUS G74SX-3DE

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    Quote Originally Posted by PILGRIM View Post
    The stock Atheros Wi-Fi was glitchy. Wi-Fi connection was slower.
    It even made my offline game (NBA 2K12) to hang/freeze in-game.
    Changed it with the much better Intel 6230 Wi-Fi card and never looked back ever since.
    Don't know,.. perhaps the Atheros card works better now with a newer driver?

    As our fellow member, fostert, used to say, having an SSD for our G74 is the best upgrade
    we can do for it. The HDD is the bottleneck for the G74's optimal performance.

    Which reminds of that Virtual Camera. I haven't used the G74's camera for ages..
    Why do I still have that utility?.. That's right, the USB Charger is for phone-charging.
    Point is, use any of the ASUS utilities (bloatwares) that are personally deemed useful.

    I've used both Windows Home Premium (currently installed) and Ultimate.
    No noticeable difference in performance, big or small, IMO..
    Only thing with Ultimate (and Pro version) is that it allows the G74 to upgrade
    the RAM all the way up to 32 GB. I have 16 GB RAM on my system.
    And I say it's already an overkill as per my computer usage.
    Thanks for all of the advices. I'll just stick with Home Premium since the ram isn't even used up to 8GB. Btw, what brand for SSD would you recommend? I saw a Micron Crucial 256GB but don't know if it's a trusted brand.

    Have you ever tried Ubuntu on G74? I love using Ubuntu but then it didn't recognize the NVIDIA driver. All the key functions work except the brightness that wouldn't go dim even though it showed that the brightness was at the lowest. I did look up for solutions and I tried all of those but still it didn't work, so I ended up removing it.

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    I currently have the Crucial M4 128 GB as my Primary OS Drive.
    I would recommend it, given its reasonable price and quality.
    Just make sure to update its firmware to the latest one.

    Sorry, I don't use Ubuntu. Perhaps fostert could share his thoughts on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PILGRIM View Post
    I currently have the Crucial M4 128 GB as my Primary OS Drive.
    I would recommend it, given its reasonable price and quality.
    Just make sure to update its firmware to the latest one.

    Sorry, I don't use Ubuntu. Perhaps fostert could share his thoughts on this.
    Alright. Thanks again PILGRIM for the info. I'll try to get a SSD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeEang View Post
    Have you ever tried Ubuntu on G74? I love using Ubuntu but then it didn't recognize the NVIDIA driver. All the key functions work except the brightness that wouldn't go dim even though it showed that the brightness was at the lowest. I did look up for solutions and I tried all of those but still it didn't work, so I ended up removing it.
    I use Linux 24/7 on my G74 (the Debian testing distro) and have gotten most of the G74's functions (keyboard backlight, volume, screen brightness, etc) to work, but strangely the fn-F keycombos to control these things only work when GDM is loaded and I haven't logged in yet to start X. Once I log in and run a Window Manager it seems, all the key combos stop working. I have learned to set everything up how I like it upon GDM startup so its not a terrible loss.

    Also using Linux has somewhat solved the NUMLOCK woes on the G74: strangely the system boots with the NUMLOCK state off (i.e. the numpad behaves like Home/PgUp/PgDown/Insert, Del,End). I can toggle the NUMLOCK on using the CAPSLOCK key (weird, eh?). But it does show that the NUMLOCK problem is completely and easily fixed: we just need ASUS to release a BIOS that remaps the NUMLOCK to the (useless) calculator key.

    Anyhow, to get all this functionality I use the pre-compiled Kernel 3.2 from the Debian Testing distro. This kernel has the common ASUS key controls turned on. I also use the NVIDIA Linux drivers version 295.40. You'll need to have the the full kernel source and in particular the kernel headers installed to install the NVIDIA driver, as it compiles using these headers.
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