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    ROG 師傅 Array Arne Saknussemm PC Specs
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    Laptop (Model)Laptop?...No way! (Model?...Jun Amaki...yes way!)
    MotherboardROG ZENITH EXTREME
    ProcessorTHREADRIPPER 1920X
    Memory (part number)F4-3200C14Q-32GVK
    Graphics Card #1GTX Titan X
    Graphics Card #2SLI is dead to me
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    CPU CoolerCustom Loop: Dual D5s, Dual Alphacool Monsta 480s, XSPC Raystorm Neo TR4, EK TitanX WaterBlock
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiVizMan View Post
    the unseen research that goes on after hours is what separates the great benchers from the merely good.

    ........ simply do the best with what is available.
    I'm sure of that!! A bad workman always blames his tools! I used to go ice climbing with bits of sawn off pipe as a poor student in places that folk with the latest greatest ice screws never got to so I'm not coming at this from the wrong direction I hope. I'm not trying to buy improvement in a kit just would like to get something that has the potential in it if I do the searching for it. I've done quite a bit of tweaking with my current kit but seem to have come to a wall in finding improvements with it and see most are using higher frequency kits so was wondering what way to jump. But I don't have the time to go through 20 second hand PSC kits lol

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    ROG Guru: Gold Belt Array Menthol PC Specs
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    We are all in the same boat Arne, buy the time you see some threads on some special kit it to late, at least the price of dram has never been lower 10 years ago or less you would spend more on dram than on your motherboard and cpu combined.

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    ROG 師傅 Array Arne Saknussemm PC Specs
    Arne Saknussemm PC Specs
    Laptop (Model)Laptop?...No way! (Model?...Jun Amaki...yes way!)
    MotherboardROG ZENITH EXTREME
    ProcessorTHREADRIPPER 1920X
    Memory (part number)F4-3200C14Q-32GVK
    Graphics Card #1GTX Titan X
    Graphics Card #2SLI is dead to me
    Graphics Card #3Tri SLI is even dead to Nvidia
    Graphics Card #4Quad SLI is dead to everybody especially my credit card
    Sound CardXonar Essence STX
    MonitorASUS ROG Swift PG279Q
    Storage #1Samsung 950 PRO
    Storage #22x OCZ VERTEX 3/2x WD Caviar Black 500GB / 2x WD RED 2TB
    CPU CoolerCustom Loop: Dual D5s, Dual Alphacool Monsta 480s, XSPC Raystorm Neo TR4, EK TitanX WaterBlock
    CaseNope!...Phobya Bench...let it all hang out man!
    Power SupplySeasonic SS-1200XP3
    Keyboard Logitech G810 or Fender Rhodes Electric Piano (MKI 73)
    Mouse G502 or Speedy Gonzalez...not Mickey...don't do Disney!
    Headset ...firmly on neck
    Mouse Pad Mouse don't got his own pad man...lives with me
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    OS Win XP, 7, 8, 8.1 and Windows 10 Spyware Edition
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    Boat? wish I was in a boat....feel like I'm in a leaky canoe as far as RAM goes...but I'll get there....lol.

    Have you played much with your platinum kit....tried tightening timings much etc?

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    As Hiviz points out tight timings are the way to go with 2D benches in almost all situations but not sacrificing tight timings for RAW CPU speed as IMC is under more stress with tighter timings. 32mil is slightly different as RAM timings can make up for some CPU speed. You have to balance off what is good in your situation.

    I have four GSKILL PSC sticks for X79 benching 2D 32mb I use these settings.

    http://www.hwbot.org/submission/2291...6min_7sec_47ms

    For 3D using X79 ie Vantage and 11. I use GSKILL Ripzaws Hynix at these settings.

    http://www.hwbot.org/submission/2325...80_52285_marks

    It really does depend on the system and the bench you need to test different IC's and settings mate and work out whats best for your situation.

    If you do decide to ever bench Z77 also both PSC and Hynix work well on that platform too!!

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    ROG 師傅 Array Arne Saknussemm PC Specs
    Arne Saknussemm PC Specs
    Laptop (Model)Laptop?...No way! (Model?...Jun Amaki...yes way!)
    MotherboardROG ZENITH EXTREME
    ProcessorTHREADRIPPER 1920X
    Memory (part number)F4-3200C14Q-32GVK
    Graphics Card #1GTX Titan X
    Graphics Card #2SLI is dead to me
    Graphics Card #3Tri SLI is even dead to Nvidia
    Graphics Card #4Quad SLI is dead to everybody especially my credit card
    Sound CardXonar Essence STX
    MonitorASUS ROG Swift PG279Q
    Storage #1Samsung 950 PRO
    Storage #22x OCZ VERTEX 3/2x WD Caviar Black 500GB / 2x WD RED 2TB
    CPU CoolerCustom Loop: Dual D5s, Dual Alphacool Monsta 480s, XSPC Raystorm Neo TR4, EK TitanX WaterBlock
    CaseNope!...Phobya Bench...let it all hang out man!
    Power SupplySeasonic SS-1200XP3
    Keyboard Logitech G810 or Fender Rhodes Electric Piano (MKI 73)
    Mouse G502 or Speedy Gonzalez...not Mickey...don't do Disney!
    Headset ...firmly on neck
    Mouse Pad Mouse don't got his own pad man...lives with me
    Headset/Speakers Edifier Spinnaker...or you mean the speakers in my head...man too many voices to name them all
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    Hey 8 Pack a mine of useful info as always and thanks for putting it up there. I have a ton to learn on this stuff. For HiVizMan's challenge my clocks have actually been relatively low so been concentrating for timings. i can see that going for all out speed I'll have to do as you say ballance brute CPU speed with timings even relaxing them possibly. As always no recipe each CPU/system is it's own world but it's a great help to have pointers!!Cheers man

    EDIT: How do you know it's PSC or Hynix etc. are you taking off heat spreaders and looking at chips etc.?
    Last edited by Arne Saknussemm; 11-06-2012 at 11:36 AM.

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    I have taken spreaders off in the past yes. Mainly to find Eliphida kit that will scale well on the cold with high volts.

    But not on these kits just search around the forums for other users. Also each RAM IC in the main is given away in its stock timings. PSC for example is usually 2gb dimms and sloppes up and down at stock timings so 6-7-6 or 7-8-7 or 8-9-8. Hynix on the other hand goes sharpely up and down and is 4gb dimms. So 9-11-10 or 10-12-11. Samsung generally has up then flat timings in 4gb dimms so 9-10-10 or 10-11-11.

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    MotherboardM 10 Apex / XI gene
    Processor8700K / 9900K
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    As long as you can bail the water out faster then it leaks in your doing good.
    Unfortunately I haven't had time to play much lately, been busy at work, doctors appointments and my 18 year old son, but I have been watching these forums and socking up the knowledge from everyone in the challenge and the tips from the masters, Viz, 8 pack, Raja, can;t thank these guys enough for being so generous with their knowledge, Hope the next challenge is 3D.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arne Saknussemm View Post
    Boat? wish I was in a boat....feel like I'm in a leaky canoe as far as RAM goes...but I'll get there....lol.

    Have you played much with your platinum kit....tried tightening timings much etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Menthol View Post
    Hope the next challenge is 3D.
    Vantage loving about to happen - stay tuned.
    To help us help you - please provide as much information about your system and the problem as possible.

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    MotherboardM 10 Apex / XI gene
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    Memory (part number)2x8 Gskill Trident Z 4266/2x2x8 Gskill Trident Z 4500
    Graphics Card #1RTX 2080ti / GTX 1060
    Sound CardSoundBlaster Ae5 / Onboard
    MonitorBENQ 32" 4K
    Storage #1Intel 900p 480GB/Samsung 960 Pro 1TB
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    CPU CoolerCorsair H150i AIO / H1110i
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    MotherboardM 10 Apex / XI gene
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    Memory (part number)2x8 Gskill Trident Z 4266/2x2x8 Gskill Trident Z 4500
    Graphics Card #1RTX 2080ti / GTX 1060
    Sound CardSoundBlaster Ae5 / Onboard
    MonitorBENQ 32" 4K
    Storage #1Intel 900p 480GB/Samsung 960 Pro 1TB
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiVizMan View Post
    Vantage loving about to happen - stay tuned.
    Viz,
    First,
    Sir you are very generous deserving of the title Prince, this has got to take a lot of your time.
    Second,
    Awesome

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