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    Quote Originally Posted by Seth-01 View Post
    +1 for me !! I want more informations about the changelog.

    My first question about the same changelog since ever was : "is that motherboard so unstable that it need a so great number of bios to be stable ????"
    I'd say the BIOS changes have been comparable to the EVGA X58 mobo BIOS' 2008-2011. However, EVGA posted several BIOS' that were highly buggy and therefore had to be quickly fixed (there were a few that were only a couple of weeks apart); so I'd say Asus was much more professional about it, not releasing a final BIOS without proper testing, comparatively speaking. BTW, if you look at the EVGA site there is a 10-page protesting thread about EVGA X79 issues either not addressed or just not fixed yet. FYI (for comparison purposes):
    EVGA X79 forum: X79 Series - Unresolved Motherboard Issues Thread - (UN)HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!

    EVGA X58 ("Intel 5 series") forum: BIOS Changelog for x58 SLI (132-BL-E758-A1/TR)

    Note the detail of their changelogs!
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    The rainning down of new bios's is really allot to do with Win 8. Allot of the fixes is just trying to make win 8 work right i think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maximiza View Post
    The rainning down of new bios's is really allot to do with Win 8. Allot of the fixes is just trying to make win 8 work right i think.
    I intended to say something about that, but forgot bc of this flu. Agreed, EVGA is having a hard time with that as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maximiza View Post
    The rainning down of new bios's is really allot to do with Win 8. Allot of the fixes is just trying to make win 8 work right i think.
    If there's such a difference in terms of BIOS requirements between Win7 and Win8, then perhaps it would make sense to branch the BIOS in 2 directions. That way, when a fix for win8 comes out, it would only mean a new BIOS release on the Win8 branch, and Win7 users would not need to update their bios for no apparent benefit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melting Point View Post
    If there's such a difference in terms of BIOS requirements between Win7 and Win8, then perhaps it would make sense to branch the BIOS in 2 directions. That way, when a fix for win8 comes out, it would only mean a new BIOS release on the Win8 branch, and Win7 users would not need to update their bios for no apparent benefit.
    I see your point, but please allow me to respectfully disagree. My guess is that the BIOS team at ASUS is really small, and so forking the BIOS will only cause more problems with bugs only getting fixed in one fork or the other. Also, they would have less time to work on each, which would result in fewer updates. Maybe what they should do is give more details and explain if it fixes anything for Windows 7 and/or Windows 8. Users could then make their own decisions on whether or not to upgrade.
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    If you have stability problem with your Rampages, switch to Crosshair , it's DAM stable, I can't crash this bad boy.

    Serious, I dislike flash a BIOS when it work fine, so I vote also to have more information to not flash it for nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melting Point View Post
    If there's such a difference in terms of BIOS requirements between Win7 and Win8, then perhaps it would make sense to branch the BIOS in 2 directions. That way, when a fix for win8 comes out, it would only mean a new BIOS release on the Win8 branch, and Win7 users would not need to update their bios for no apparent benefit.
    There is a big difference in both requirements and what Windows 8 supports. For example "Fast Boot" is not a new thing. I have somewhere the original spec, nvm I just found it with some google-fu. http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/...windows-7.html

    See the date on this and read it. No one implemented it on the boards until Win8 could exploit it (although it also works with Win7). Everything 2xxx up for the the Rampage IV boards is influenced by Windows 8.
    I also agree with Zygomorph that forking will hurt you more if you don't want to use Win8. Why? If you split the team in 2 code branches, guess which team will get the most resources? That said, it is safe to assume that every 3xxx is aimed towards Win8 ALONG with other "current" stuff (eg RAID TRIM). You see Win8 is what is current (as much as I hate its windows_phone/tablet_monopoly_build_up interface-- Classic Shell is your friend).
    So unless the changelogs get better, you'd better find a UEFI version that's absolutely stable for you and stick with it, or test everything out cause everything from now on will be Win8 oriented.
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    My thoughts exactly.

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    yes,everything everyone is saying.It would be nice.

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    I would also like more information than "improve stability".

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