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    Crosshair V Gene

    I realise the question of whether a Crosshair V Gene will be made has been asked before and I have read answers by your good selves explaining that the ROI for such a board makes the project unviable and as a result development funds would be better spent elsewhere.
    My question is whether this is still the case? The latest chipsets such as the FX-8350 seem to be gaining in popularity and I was wondering if we are getting closer to the point where a mATX board would make financial sense?

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    I would think before completely new motherboards, especially the size of the Gene, become viable AMD would need to address several items. Power requirement, IPC and a chipset that provides improved SATA performance to name a few.

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    The Chrosshair V and the V-Z are already at a Gene price. That means Asus make a lot less money compare to the Intel ROG boards, so why they will make a cheaper board to make even less money .

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    Area 66, indeed, the CHVF and CHVFZ are at the Gene price, but maybe the OP needs the Gene size too...

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    The price point is not the burning issue for me, the form factor however is essential. I am converting a 1939 valve radio cabinet into a bespoke PC case and a standard ATX board simply will not fit. I should have done more research before buying my FX-8350 processor (was on special offer!) but, stupidly, I assumed a uATX socket AM3+ board would be easy enough to get. Have purchased a M5A78L-M/USB3 but it lacks some features I desire such as SATA 3.0 and mid board USB3 headers. Would of course prefer a newer chipset version also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Praz View Post
    I would think before completely new motherboards, especially the size of the Gene, become viable AMD would need to address several items. Power requirement, IPC and a chipset that provides improved SATA performance to name a few.
    In that case is a 990FX upgrade to the M5A78L-M likely or is it the 990 chipset that is causing the problems?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boorach View Post
    In that case is a 990FX upgrade to the M5A78L-M likely or is it the 990 chipset that is causing the problems?
    I think from a motherboard manufacturer perspective AMD needs to do more than a lateral move when releasing a new product line. For the majority of users currently on a 890 chipset platform with something like a 1090 CPU there is very little performance to be gained in any area by moving to the 990 chipset and say a 8350 CPU. Add to this that AMD trails Intel in most every area of performance while at the same time requiring more power to do so.

    Compounding this are the issues of the uATX form factor of the Gene as it applies to AMD. Users will naturally want to instal a 8350 and overclock. There is limited space for the VRM circuit and the design is also limited as to proper cooling of the circuit. This is a platform that can draw upwards of 300W when pushed. This would be both a design and support nightmare. ASUS would have to release this board knowing that overall few would be sold and RMAs would be high. This would not make sense unless the financial bottom line was in need of a write-off. In today's economy and the overall slow sales of PC components I don't believe any manufacturer is in a position to need this type of loss leader in their product line.

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    Ah well, I'll just have to chalk this one up to experience and start saving for an Intel/Maximus combo.

    Many thanks for the reply.

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    Boorach, a Maximus V Gene with a 3570k would be at the same performance level as you would be with a FX8350... If you get the 3770k with the MVG, you will be clearly in a win-win situation...

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