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"My CPU-RIVE not like the 46x multiplier"

sandro_c
Level 12
Hi Nodens, hi guys,
I believe that the situation requires me to open a new tred also because it is not proper for me to treat a overclocking problem in a tread regarding drivers for the Intel SATA ports.
It seems that we can say that "My CPU-RIVE not like the 46x multiplier"
To summarize just for those who did not follow us in the other tread, for months I've always used an overclock @ 4.550 Ghz with multip. setup 45X-FSB 101.6 - mem clock @ 2170, because in the past I have verified that with 46x - FSB 100.0, the PC did not boot.
Today I wanted to exaggerate this setup just to see what I could bring to 4.6 GHz before having boot problems, compatibly with the temp. allowed by my air cooling of course. In the last reply, for problems regarding IMC, were advising me to lower the memory clock and raise the moltip. @ 46-48X, and to help stability i have also raised the offset +0.050 which Vcore under a load of 1.40 volts, with temp. still acceptable. I setup the multip. at 46x, FSB at 100.0 and mem @ 1866 leaving as usual all other setup. Well the PC did not boot!
After I went back to my old setup 45X, - but get a FSB @ 102.3, mem clock @ 2192 and a CPU clock @ 4604 .....and PC has passed all the tests that I usually do to check the stability and ... it boots perfectly!
I do not think is a problem of IMC.
I am willing to do any tests suggested to explain such a strange thing.
thanks advance for your suggestions.
sandro c.
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Nodens
Level 16
1866 is still overclocked memory. Test with 1600 or less.
Also make sure to disable Anti-Surge protection and try with CPU Current Capability @ 130%, LLC Med, VTT/VCCSA @ 1.25 and Vcore offset +0,05
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HalloweenWeed
Level 12
Sandro, please FILL OUT the following list, please indicate "auto" if it is set to "auto":

Extreme Tweaker menu:
Ai Overclock tuner:
CPU Level up:
Turbo ratio: By all cores
By all cores (can adjust in OS): 46
Bclk freq: 100 (default stock speed)
CPU Strap: 100 (default stock speed)
CPU Clock gen filter:
Memory freq:
Extreme tweaking: Disabled (default)
EPU power saving mode: Disabled (default)

Extreme 0V: Disabled (default)
Bclk skew:
CPU Vcore V: Offset mode
Offset mode sign: +
CPU Vcore offset V:
(CPU Vcore V: N/A)
VTT CPU V:
2nd VTTCPU V: Auto (default)
CPU VCCSA manual V:
DRAM V (chA, chB):
DRAM V (chC, chD):
CPU PLL V: <-- Please tell me also what your BIOS says it is setting for this if it is set to "auto"
VTTDDR voltage (chA, chB): Auto
VTTDDR voltage (chC, chD): Auto
CPU spread spectrum: Disabled
PCIe spread sprectrum: Auto (default)
(xxxx Tweaker's paradise settings all default)

CPU Performance settings submenu:
CPU ratio:
Enhanced Intel Speedstep tech:
Turbo mode: Enabled (default)
Turbo mode parameters submenu; Power limit control: Auto (default)

DRAM timing control submenu:
Rampage Tweak:

CAS (tCL):
RAS to CAS Delay (tRCD):
RAS Pre time (tRP):
RAS ACT time (tRAS):
DRAM command mode ("command rate"):
The rest set at "auto"? (default)


Digi+ power control submenu:
CPU load-line calibration:
CPU current capability:
CPU voltage freq: Auto (default)
VRM over temperature protection: Auto (default)
CPU power duty control: T.Probe (default)
Vcore MOS volt. control: 7V (default)
CPU power phase control: Extreme (non-selectable)
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled (default)
CPU Vcore boot up Voltage: Auto (default)
VCCSA load-line calibration:
VCCSA current capability:
VCCSA fixed freq: 300 (default)
CPU VCCSA boot up voltage: Auto (default)
CPU VTT switching freq: Auto (default)
CPU VTT over-current protection: Auto (default)
DRAM-AB current capability:
DRAM-AB voltage frequency: Auto (default)
DRAM-AB power phase control:
DRAM-CD current capability:
DRAM-CD voltage frequency: Auto (default)
DRAM-CD power phase control:


Advanced menu.
CPU power management submenu:
CPU ratio:
Enhanced Intel Speedstep tech: Enabled (default)
Turbo mode: Enabled (default)
CPU C1E:
CPU C3 report:
CPU C6 report:
CPU C7 report:
Package C state support:



Monitor menu:
Anti surge support:


I know it's a pain, but I really can't help you much without all the info. When you get up to 4.6 a lot of settings has to be just perfect.
i7-3930K; Asus RIVE; G.SKILL Ripjaws Z 4x4GB DDR3 1866; MSI 7870 2GD5/OC; Crucial M4 SSD 256GB;
Corsair 1000HX; Corsair H100, 4x Excalibur 120mm PWM CPU Fan p-p, AS5; SB X-Fi Titanium Fata1ity Pro;
Dell U2412m IPS 1920x1200; Cooler Master HAF 932 case; Tripp-Lite OMNIVS1500 UPS fully Line-interactive.
(EVGA site: ) And I have a second (wife's) computer, Eve.

Overclocking is useless to me if it is not rock stable.

sandro_c
Level 12
Nodens Hi, thanks for the new suggestions.
New setup:
memclock @ 1600
FSB @ 100.0
multip. @ 46x
cpu clock @ 4600
Vcore offset +0.05 already in bios
LLc MEDIUM already in bios
CPU curr. Chap. 130% already in bios
vccsa-vtt now set @ 1.25 volts
reboot and ... PC still freezes during the load of the logo Win7!?
After the reboot get the message "Overclocking failed"
Only set multip. 45X, reboot ...to write this answer,
the only variation is the set multip. to 45X.
thanks
sandro c.

sandro_c
Level 12
Hi HalloweenWeed, a thanks also for you:
now I am giving you the setup, not according to the latest tips from our friend Nodens,
but those who gave everything OK, of course... before setting the multip. to 46x,

CPU clock ........@4603 mhz
Extreme Tweaker menu:
Ai Overclock tuner: manual
CPU Level up:
Turbo ratio: By all cores
By all cores (can adjust in OS): 45x
Bclk freq: 100 (default stock speed) 102,3
CPU Strap: 100 (default stock speed) auto
CPU Clock gen filter: auto
Memory freq: 2192 mhz
Extreme tweaking: Disabled (default)
EPU power saving mode: Disabled (default)

Extreme 0V: Disabled (default)
Bclk skew: auto
CPU Vcore V: Offset mode
Offset mode sign: +
CPU Vcore offset V: 0,05
(CPU Vcore V: N/A)
VTT CPU V: 1,125
2nd VTTCPU V: Auto (default)
CPU VCCSA manual V: 1,125
DRAM V (chA, chB): 1,525
DRAM V (chC, chD): 1,525
CPU PLL V: <-- Please tell me also what your BIOS says it is setting for this if it is set to "auto" 1,825
VTTDDR voltage (chA, chB): Auto
VTTDDR voltage (chC, chD): Auto
CPU spread spectrum: Disabled
PCIe spread sprectrum: Auto (default)
(xxxx Tweaker's paradise settings all default)

CPU Performance settings submenu:
CPU ratio: auto
Enhanced Intel Speedstep tech: enable
Turbo mode: Enabled (default) enable
Turbo mode parameters submenu; Power limit control: Auto (default)

DRAM timing control submenu:
Rampage Tweak: mode 2

CAS (tCL): 9
RAS to CAS Delay (tRCD): 11
RAS Pre time (tRP): 10
RAS ACT time (tRAS): 24
DRAM command mode ("command rate"): 1N
The rest set at "auto"? (default)


Digi+ power control submenu:
CPU load-line calibration: medium
CPU current capability: 130%
CPU voltage freq: Auto (default) auto
VRM over temperature protection: Auto (default) auto
CPU power duty control: T.Probe (default) t probe
Vcore MOS volt. control: 7V (default) auto
CPU power phase control: Extreme (non-selectable) extreme
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled (default) disable
CPU Vcore boot up Voltage: Auto (default) auto
VCCSA load-line calibration: optimized
VCCSA current capability: 120%
VCCSA fixed freq: 300 (default) 300
CPU VCCSA boot up voltage: Auto (default) auto
CPU VTT switching freq: Auto (default) auto
CPU VTT over-current protection: Auto (default) auto
DRAM-AB current capability: 120%
DRAM-AB voltage frequency: Auto (default) auto
DRAM-AB power phase control: auto
DRAM-CD current capability: 120%
DRAM-CD voltage frequency: Auto (default) auto
DRAM-CD power phase control: optimized


Advanced menu.
CPU power management submenu:
CPU ratio: 45x
Enhanced Intel Speedstep tech: Enabled (default) enable
Turbo mode: Enabled (default) enable
CPU C1E: enable
CPU C3 report: disable
CPU C6 report: disable
CPU C7 report: disable
Package C state support: ??? not found

With this settings the PC pass 20 steps of LINX with 160,5 Gflops sec.
and 20 steps of IBT with 168 Gflops,
sandra CPU mark with score 198-235 and Mem-BW with 55 GB .
Of course all boots are OK and load win7 in about 9 sec.
No one boot with multipl. 46X are passed all stops during win7 logo loading.
It is all
ciao
sandro c.

cx-ray
Level 12
Try Vcore Manual Mode fixed voltage.

HalloweenWeed
Level 12
Sandro your RAS ACT time (tRAS) should be 27. Also set CPU PLL to 1.9V.
If you still have problems set DRAM command mode ("command rate") to 2.
i7-3930K; Asus RIVE; G.SKILL Ripjaws Z 4x4GB DDR3 1866; MSI 7870 2GD5/OC; Crucial M4 SSD 256GB;
Corsair 1000HX; Corsair H100, 4x Excalibur 120mm PWM CPU Fan p-p, AS5; SB X-Fi Titanium Fata1ity Pro;
Dell U2412m IPS 1920x1200; Cooler Master HAF 932 case; Tripp-Lite OMNIVS1500 UPS fully Line-interactive.
(EVGA site: ) And I have a second (wife's) computer, Eve.

Overclocking is useless to me if it is not rock stable.

sandro_c
Level 12
Hi CX-ray,
could be a solution that will not fail to try ...... but I will use as the value of fixed-voltage ... and what will happen to my poor air cooling, ... will be enough?
Thanks for the suggestion though.
sandro c.

HalloweenWeed
Level 12
Sandro, there is no reason to use fixed voltage, for OC under 5GHz, except to make it easier to get the balance right for both max burn, and idle conditions. It would mean your power $$ (money, euros) will be higher from your CPU idle time. Setting fixed voltage is just the "easy way out," in my opinion for lazy OCers if you are under 4.9GHz.
i7-3930K; Asus RIVE; G.SKILL Ripjaws Z 4x4GB DDR3 1866; MSI 7870 2GD5/OC; Crucial M4 SSD 256GB;
Corsair 1000HX; Corsair H100, 4x Excalibur 120mm PWM CPU Fan p-p, AS5; SB X-Fi Titanium Fata1ity Pro;
Dell U2412m IPS 1920x1200; Cooler Master HAF 932 case; Tripp-Lite OMNIVS1500 UPS fully Line-interactive.
(EVGA site: ) And I have a second (wife's) computer, Eve.

Overclocking is useless to me if it is not rock stable.

cx-ray
Level 12
The extra heat at load isn't any different from off-set Vcore. During idle with speedstep enabled it's quite manageable with your large cooler.