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    This makes me wonder what could be achieved with an AMD setup (pinched the pic off the web somewhere)

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    It already has a nice big backplate, maybe get some results by just aiming a fan at it.
    To do this would bother me as I have had the side of my case painted, but for my next case, I'm certainly going to look into it

    Great work Sandro


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    ROG Guru: Orange Belt Array sandro c PC Specs
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    Hi Granger, thank you for your attention,

    yes I think that even in this case, this change could be applied without difficulty, perhaps (judging from the picture) using the copper plates smaller that mine but installed horizontally to the plate of this socket with the same precautions and the same thermal pads and the same fan.
    It has to work just as well.
    greetings

    sandro c.

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    Hi Sandro
    N00b here, so i got a question, I use the Noctua NDH14 without Mod just a fan behind the Mobo, So my Question is should I toss the Noctua and get a Water cooled Corsair H100i ?

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    Hi Detleg,

    I'm sorry for my English a little stunted species of translating, but first of all I do not understand that it means "N00b here" with which you start typing.
    Me too, until a month ago and for years I used a Noctua NDH14 without any Mod, (only with fans of more efficient and less silent).
    As for your question I refer you to my answer # 9 on this same tread, where I explain why those who made ​​me your own question.
    I have not heard of your hardware, but if is what shows following the link you provide with CPUZ, where I see that you run your Cpu @ 4700 with 1,472 Volt Core, I'm sorry, but I just so hard to think that you can do this with a single Noctua NDH14, if for more than 60sec. ,or slightly more, certainly not for use 24/7 ......but if so, I'm curious to know your BIOS setup, after which throw away all of my "junk" and I will adopt it immediately!

    Greetings from
    sandro c.
    Last edited by sandro c; 05-16-2013 at 08:04 PM.

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    N00b (me)= beginner, German is my mother language so no worries your English is fine.
    And you right the 4.7 is not stable, but im not running video rendering software, just gaming, running 4.2 now and still not stable, Im about to give up on Oc'ing, reading the forum back and and forth about it lol.

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    ROG Guru: Orange Belt Array sandro c PC Specs
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    Hello Detleg,

    I'm happy to contact a German guy... for the first time on this forum,
    i am closely tied to Germany because I worked for a German company for 23 years (in Italy) but I had hundreds times for training courses with them in Frankfurt and in Kiel ... but I know of only a dozen words in German language.
    Regarding your overclock you can settle for someone like my @ 4600 ...better yet @4500 for 24/7 use stable enough, for our cooler air.
    If you need to know my setup, bios gladly send them to you, although I'm sure you're good alone.
    About my Mod. to our cooler (not sure if you read my reply # 9), however, if I had to do a new assembly, certainly would buy a liquid cooler.

    greetings
    sandro c.

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    if you would send me your bios for the 4.5 that would be great, at least i have a starting point, im thinking of getting me the H100i Corsair water cooler, but i kinda like the Noctua, IStarted with PC's in the 90's and stopped building PC's since 2005 back then things where easier, so much changed, and I want to get back in building pc's and thanks for the settings, its appreciated

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    ROG Guru: Green Belt Array Detleg PC Specs
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    Right now im trying to get it somewhat stable, tweaking it , reading the boards, but no luck, just look at the screenshot i took
    running IBT on standard for not even a minute and temps are through the roof
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    Ciao Detleg ,


    So there you have ... I hope you can help, but be careful to setup the Ram because your are not the same as mine, then see how you set them.
    Add as Contact Anyways here are my settings:

    Extreme Tweaker Menu

    Ai Overclock Tuner: manual
    CPU Level Up: Disabled
    Bclk freq: 101.000
    CPU Strap: 100MHz
    ClockGen Full Reset: Enabled
    Turbo Ratio: By All Cores
    By all cores : 45
    CPU Clock Gen Filter: Auto
    Memory Freq: DDR3-2180mHz
    Extreme Tweaking: Disabled
    EPU Power Saving Mode: Disabled
    Extreme OV: Disabled
    Bclk Skew: Auto
    CPU Vcore : Offset Mode
    Offset mode sin:+
    CPU Vcore Voltage: +0.025
    VTT CPU Voltage: 1.1250
    2nd VTTCPU Voltage: Auto
    CPU VCCSA Manual Voltage: 1.1250
    DRAM V (A, B): 1.525
    DRAM V (C, D): 1.525
    CPU PLL Voltage: 1.75
    PCH Voltage: Auto
    VTTDR Voltage (A, B): Auto
    VTTDR Voltage (C, D): Auto
    CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
    PCIe Spread Spectrum: Auto

    DRAM Timing Control
    Rampage Tweak : Mode 2
    CAS: 9
    RAS to CAS Delay: 11
    RAS Pre Time: 10
    RAS ACT Time:28
    Command Mode: 1

    Digi+ Power Control Submenu
    CPU Load-Line Calibration(LLC): Medium
    CPU current capability: 120%
    CPU Voltage Freq: 350
    VRM Over Temperature Protection: Disabled
    CPU Power Duty Control: T.Probe
    VCore MOS voltage Control: Auto
    CPU Power Phase Control: Optimized
    CPU Vcore Boot Up Voltage: Auto
    VCCSA Load-Line Calibration(LLC): Optimized
    VCCSA Current Capability: 120%
    VCCSA Fixed Freq: Auto
    CPU VCCSA Boot Up Voltage: Auto
    CPU VTT Switching Freq: 1.3x
    CPU VTT Over-Current Protection: Disabled
    DRAM-AB Current Capability: 110%
    DRAM-AB Voltage Frequency: Auto
    DRAM-AB Power Phase Control: Optimized
    DRAM-CD Current Capability: 120%
    DRAM-CD Voltage Frequency: Auto
    DRAM-CD Power Phase Control: Optimized
    PCH Switching Freq: 1.3x


    Advanced Menu
    CPU Configuration Submenu:
    Intel Adaptive Thermal Monitor: Disabled
    Hyper-threading: Enabled
    Active Processor Cores: All
    Limit CPUID Maximum:Enabled
    Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
    Hardware Prefetcher: Enabled
    Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch: Enabled
    DCU Streamer Prefetcher: Enabled
    DCCU IP Prefetcher: Enabled
    Intel Virtualization Tech: Enabled

    CPU Power Management submenu
    CPU Ratio: Auto
    Enhanced Intel Speedstep Technology: Enabled
    Turbo mode: Enabled
    CPU C1E: Enabled
    CPU C3 Report: Disabled
    CPU C6 Report: Disabled
    CPU C7 Report: Disabled

    Monitor Settings
    Anti Surge Support: Disabled

    This is what I have for my 4.550 Ghz , I use it 24/7 and the temp of Cores with room temp 27C °, are on average at full load below 75 ° C without Mod, and 69 ° C with copper plates under the CPU.
    Let me know if it was useful to you .


    Ciao sandro c.
    Last edited by sandro c; 05-17-2013 at 07:04 PM.

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    capiche thank you my friend Forza Azzuri

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