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    Look, Linux is a great OS. For a free, open source OS it is incredible. But "being a gaming forum" Linux does not win at all...Rather, Windows does. Sorry, but support for Linux is extremely limited as you might know. I don't dislike Linux, don't get me wrong. After all, a good chunk of my school installed it on their school-issued netbooks to bypass all the network filters and monitoring. It's just not comparable to Windows when it comes to gaming. And "being a gaming forum"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antronman View Post
    Look, Linux is a great OS. For a free, open source OS it is incredible. But "being a gaming forum" Linux does not win at all...Rather, Windows does. Sorry, but support for Linux is extremely limited as you might know. I don't dislike Linux, don't get me wrong. After all, a good chunk of my school installed it on their school-issued netbooks to bypass all the network filters and monitoring. It's just not comparable to Windows when it comes to gaming. And "being a gaming forum"...
    Yeah, we are primarily a gaming-oriented forum, but we are not just that. We have users who use ASUS equipment, and most often for gaming. I use mine for programming, and actually very little gaming, to be honest. Thus, for some of us who are interested, we also use LINUX. Since we have enough users, we have a section oriented at least in part towards us. We are aware of the relative gaming merits of LINUX and Windows, and that as time passes, LINUX will become another gaming-worthy platform. Valve's porting Steam is the second step in that direction (after John C. of id Software first started with the Quake LINUX port).
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    John Carmack is a personal hero as far as I'm concerned. He blatantly refused to take money from MS to jump on the DirectX bandwagon and stood his ground with OpenGL while being entirely innovating as usual. Not many studios would do that (or should I say almost no one did heh). He has my outmost respect.
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    Yes, except with DirectX Linux would have much more support, and could be a tech powerhouse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antronman View Post
    Yes, except with DirectX Linux would have much more support, and could be a tech powerhouse.
    Why? OpenGL is a far superior API than DirectX could ever be and *if* it was supported on Linux, we'd have to wait years between updates...what's so good about that?

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    More support, more people would use it. Bam. Now Linux is sold for a low, low price. Easy to manipulate, support for tons of games and productivity software.

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    If DirectX was on Linux, everybody would stop using Linux, period. The idea is to get away from Micro$haft, not cling to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myk SilentShadow View Post
    Why? OpenGL is a far superior API than DirectX could ever be and *if* it was supported on Linux, we'd have to wait years between updates...what's so good about that?
    Agreed! I have used both a bit - and COM (which is DirectX's API base) extensively. A C-based API is always better, more portable, and easier to understand. Have you by any chance read John Carmack's OpenGL rant? It's famous, and a good read.

    DirectX at it's core isn't bad, it is just the COM they use to run it that stinks.
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    Never heard of it Zygo and my brain would probably implode, trying to understand haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antronman View Post
    Yes, except with DirectX Linux would have much more support, and could be a tech powerhouse.
    Quote Originally Posted by Antronman View Post
    More support, more people would use it. Bam. Now Linux is sold for a low, low price. Easy to manipulate, support for tons of games and productivity software.
    Ehm these statements makes no sense. Why would it have more support? And more support for what? Also all "productivity" software use OpenGL. You keep saying "more support" without any explanation on what you mean by this blanket statement.. Easy to manipulate what? Support for tons of games? How so? Linux providing DX APIs does not immediately make Windows games run on it. They still need porting. Which beats the purpose of using DX in the first place. Steam on Linux/SteamOS and the majority of big game engines providing Linux exporting is what's going on now and is the future of gaming.


    I'll second what Zygomorphic said. As a person who works with both *nix and Windows platforms, the COM/DCOM object hell of Windows is very developer unfriendly, frankly a mess. Also in regards to graphic APIs, DirectX has its merits but is vastly inferior to OpenGL as APIs due to extensibility alone. Sure at one point DX was superior feature-wise only but that was only during the time OpenGL had been frozen for years.. which was due to MS antitrust practices (paying developers and producers to adopt DX in order to form a pseudomonopoly--which worked).

    Linux means Open. DirectX would be implemented on it in a heartbeat IF MS allowed it. DX is a proprietary/closed API for a reason. That is to force Windows on the consumer PC market via the gaming market. If MS opened the API, it would really have no raison d'etre.
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