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    Quote Originally Posted by HiVizMan View Post
    Some one has time on his hands. Hivizman on steam for Borderland2 when you are ready Arne and others.
    no F4? you whit all those keys? :P

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    Yes it's the RIVE system. On BIOS 3504. and updated prior to OCing. But I find it hard to believe Windows is wobbling along like a unicyclist about to fall over all the time. I have not had a crash ever at my 4.6 OC from anything. But if that's what you reckon is indeed happening I'd have to say good on Windows! If it is wobbling along it does it with style and I can't imagine Windows at 4.6GHz is slower than Linux at 3.8GHz.

    So I guess I'll try another drive...another BIOS etc. and keep looking for a stable OC though it seems I can't run my RAM at spec 2133.

    I suppose having your definition of instability really rigid is what you need for secure data and absolute stability so great for Linux on that front but if it ever wants to be a gaming/OCing platform it's going to have to relax it's standards a bit.

    Maybe it's just my RIG? I'd be interested to hear other peoples experiences with Linux and OCing...

    EDIT:

    OK so I'm 85% of the way to figuring out what's going on....I am currently OC'd to 4.6GHz running 2133 RAM and guess what? at offset +0.01 and blah blah all voltages as they should be....what's different? well I set XMP instead of manual in AI Overclock Tuner so all the entries for timings are the the ones XMP set (although when I did this manually they were exactly the same).

    I say 85% because at the moment all Digi+ settings are on AUTO...I will try changing stuff and see what's going on. There must be some settings in BIOS that Linux doesn't like not necessarily voltages and frequencies per se....
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    Instead of doing all that, check the logs. With Linux guesswork and trying random stuff is not needed. The logs will tell you what's wrong. I have no problem OCing on Linux at all. Even my server is overclocked. So it's definitely something on your setup that's triggering it. I personally doubt it has to do with stability in itself (since it's a big difference in settings). When I said that Linux may catch instabilities that Windows won't, I'm talking in general. Not your case with 0.03 VCore, 0.075 VCCSA/VTT and 0.15VDIMM difference. Pretty sure it's not stability that's causing this.

    For example, latest UEFI versions for the RIVE mention fixing issues with USB devices. It could be that linux is detecting such an issue when you overclock and thus preventing your mouse from functioning by not loading the usb kernel drivers.

    Conformity to standards has nothing to do with stability. It has to do with firmware issues and hardware support. Say something is wrong with ACPI tables in a UEFI version. Linux will complain, Windows you won't even know about it. Is it dangerous to not even know about it in Windows? It depends on the issue. Thing is Linux wants the user aware and taking responsibility for the action instead of striding along like nothing is wrong (under carpet approach). Due to this reason (Windows hiding stuff under the carpet) many BIOS/UEFI issues are never fixed.
    For example my Linux server is running a P7P55 LX board. As long as I enable VT-d in the BIOS I get an error message in dmesg telling me that the BIOS is buggy (DMAR issue) and IOMMU is not working properly. If I load a Xen kernel to use virtual machines with VT-d on, it won't work. But I know exactly what's wrong (And there's no later BIOS version for that board that fixes the issue heh). When I load Windows on the same board with VT-d on I have absolutely no idea that VT-d is buggy in firmware.
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    Ok do this in a terminal window "dmesg >~/dmesg.log" and then "cat /var/log/messages >~/messages.log" and send me those 2 logs (they will be in your user home directory- "~" is a variable that automatically gets translated to user home directory in the shell). I'll tell ya what's wrong

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    Sheesh sorry Nodens....run out of playtime today LOL I'll have to take a rain check but I'll do that for sure...this is more fun than I expected....

    I just had time to set my Digi+ settings to my normal setup and bang no boot...

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    Time for a pipe....

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    No worries, mate. Whenever you're up to it

    Glad you're having fun though , even as you run into issues! We'll get that hat stable on the head and see how fast Metro runs!
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    Yeah sorry, had to get back to my normal windows install because Farcry 3 just went from 50% off to 75% off on steam and I couldn't resist adding that

    And got to eat .... man cannot live on Linux alone.

    But thanks for all the help my friend!

    Quote Originally Posted by HiVizMan View Post
    Some one has time on his hands. Hivizman on steam for Borderland2 when you are ready Arne and others.
    Yes, this has to happen!

    Quote Originally Posted by kkn View Post
    no F4? you whit all those keys? :P
    kkn I don't know what F4 does in windows or Linux so you're ahead of me there
    Last edited by Arne Saknussemm; 12-01-2013 at 07:42 PM.

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    I think he meant BF4 instead of Borderlands 2 and thought he was implying Viz is sitting on a lot of BF4 keys Still I'd take BL2 instead of BF4 anyday (hate the BF series hehe).
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    Oh I see LOL

    BL1+2 great fun!

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    I got both, they're great! BL1 I still have an unfinished DLC and BL2 unfortunately I've only played for like an hour. Need to find some time to play that..
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