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    @ Arne, I thought of that, about airflow blockage, so I have tested the cooler without the middle fan to see if the airflow is strong without the mid Noctua one. Because the cooler is extremely dense the air speed is dramatically low after the first cooler, so the mid one actually helps.@ Twisted1 and Vizman, yes the Voltage is high but I believe that's because of the theory I have described, because until I hit 4900 it needs minor bump to Vcore to be stable. After temps pass 60 - 70 needs 100 mV to go to next multi. (I will post a file with some data, so you can see how it scales). Also Twisted1, you need to set CPU power limit to Disabled in Digi in BIOS, because when you reach 5.2 the power draw is more than 150%, so the circuit is limited by that factor. Set Extreme for Current balance, not Tprobe for Temp balance and set power limit to disabled. Start increase Vcore. You maybe reach stability before 1.73Volts.

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    Ah Ok, you thought of that already

    Yes there's definitely a vicious cycle that kicks in..more voltage-more heat-more leakage...needs more voltage...leads to bencher sitting in down parka in room with open windows at 15 degrees drinking hot lemon and honey

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    ROG Guru: Brown Belt Array nikosa43's Avatar
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    lol, Arne at least I was sitting comfy at 23 degrees . I have a 10 meters HDMI cable and the case was outside. Hmmm maybe that's why didnt make me the favour.....left outside alone in cold and dark.... while I was enjoying inside....


    Anyway, here you can see how my chip scales. At the time I made that, I was using Intel burn test to maximum settings and with all memory.
    It's good to have something like this to check if chip has been degraded by time or not. Until now works fine with same settings.

    https://www.asuswebstorage.com/navig...7B59A0DDA5A164

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    I would suggest dropping your LLC and increasing vcore to be honest. I do not bench with LLC at high or ultra high. I am probably the only bencher who does bench with LLC at regular or medium.
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    Felt a bit incomplete without a Saturday morning wazza so did a few runs of Pi.

    I tried the 32 instead of 24 in the timings viz but cot lots of "non convergent" errors and the runs that passed slower...weird RAM?

    Anyway I shaved a few milliseconds...and that counts as progress...

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    Looking good Arne, I will do some comparable runs today with the same memory and see what I discover.
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    ROG 師傅 Array Arne Saknussemm PC Specs
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    Cool would be interested

    I gave then a notch more voltage too when the convergent errors appeared and still didn't play nice...I also tried 31 and that passed but slower...I know a bit more about RAM now but that just means I know there's a lot more to know

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    @Vizman, but don't you have crashes from big vdroop?
    @Arne, that's great you remembered the old one RB. You do benching in win8, don't you? If so, do whatever you did before but this time, Don't kill explorer and check your Multi score after. For SPi32 leave your primary settings as is and start reducing one step at a time your tRRD through secondary. Give it a try
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    Nope I do not have crashes at all, simply because I believe and the results I produce suggest it does work, prefer higher vcore. Quite happy to be 0.050 higher in vcore and on regular than the other way round to be honest. I find my temps under load are not as bad as others too, that means I get higher clocks to.
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    @Nikosa, Will try disabling powerlimit, had that set @140%. My chip is the same, up too about 4,9-5ghz it scales fine with voltage, above that I need to bump Vcore much more. Sweetspot for my good chip is probably 4.6Ghz @1240mV. My temps are not high at all though, I got the rads sitting in the window and temps rarely go above 70C even @+5Ghz.

    @Hiviz, How high can I push Vcore before I risk killing the cpu?(3770K) Really don't wanna kill my good chip. Will try lower LLC, got it set to extreme, just cuz it says extreme I guess

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