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    and yes i am aiming for those kind of frequenties
    so i think i am almost positive that i might get sandy-e most likely :P

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    Kept my 3960x, can clock it to 5.3 on RIVE without much trouble. Didn't think I had much chance of getting even close to that with a newer one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DooRules View Post
    Kept my 3960x, can clock it to 5.3 on RIVE without much trouble. Didn't think I had much chance of getting even close to that with a newer one.
    No, you didn't. But you also didn't have much, if any, chance of scoring another SB-e with that kind of clocking potential.

    Don't be confused that reports of a few long-established high clocking SB-e's is indicative of a high probability of scoring such a chip without binning multiple samples. I forget where the statistic was, but somebody early on did the math that statistically IB-e actually has an advantage over SB-e if you're looking for an exceptionally high clocker.

    Both have their advantages, but odds are about even that you'll get a REALLY good IB-e as a REALLY good SB-e; the only real difference is what "really good" means. And again, I refer back to the point that 4.6ghz IB-e =/= 4.6ghz SB-e. They are NOT equivalent clock-for-clock.

    p.s. fwiw, I went through this exact debate a few months ago. What tipped the scales for me was this: if I got a dud IB-e, at least I gave it my best shot. If I got a dud SB-e, then not only did I opt for the older tech, but I didn't even get a good one at that. Womp womp. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by DooRules View Post
    Kept my 3960x, can clock it to 5.3 on RIVE without much trouble. Didn't think I had much chance of getting even close to that with a newer one.

    been there done that on my 4930K. but got sanity sake I parked it at 4.8ghz for 24/7 ops.
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    Not hugely into benching but have gone from a 3930k to 4930k as an example in 3dmark i get same performance with my 4930k at 4.2 compared to my 3930k at 4.5GHZ and less heat and volts also.

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    i am still debating myself, cpuboss is no help, some 3970 can be had for cheaper now. I am still thinking they might be a 4970/4980 in a few months. For software use my 3820 is fine, benching always requires the newest tech though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisnyc75 View Post
    No, you didn't. But you also didn't have much, if any, chance of scoring another SB-e with that kind of clocking potential.

    Don't be confused that reports of a few long-established high clocking SB-e's is indicative of a high probability of scoring such a chip without binning multiple samples. I forget where the statistic was, but somebody early on did the math that statistically IB-e actually has an advantage over SB-e if you're looking for an exceptionally high clocker.

    Both have their advantages, but odds are about even that you'll get a REALLY good IB-e as a REALLY good SB-e; the only real difference is what "really good" means. And again, I refer back to the point that 4.6ghz IB-e =/= 4.6ghz SB-e. They are NOT equivalent clock-for-clock.

    p.s. fwiw, I went through this exact debate a few months ago. What tipped the scales for me was this: if I got a dud IB-e, at least I gave it my best shot. If I got a dud SB-e, then not only did I opt for the older tech, but I didn't even get a good one at that. Womp womp. lol
    I have owned 2 pcs "not binned" 3930k, bought at different shops 6 months apart, the first one i kept (the poor overclocker) 5220mhz, the other one i sold 3 moths after the purchase ( it was the faster one).. but needed the cash back then..

    And i often spot specimens in here, that run at the voltages mine did, at 24/7 OC.. 4700 mhz 1,38v, and is keeping the 0,3v delta, running very stable..

    People in general cant OC 3930K above 5040mhz stable enough, or they dont have the patience to learn..

    SBE is great for points in benchmarking.. if you are unlucky you might get a 5200mhz (just like mine), a rotten cherry

    Had to bend it up from 5160nhz to 5220mhz, but above 5220mhz the VTT ratios got totally out of line, and i didnt push it further..

    No degradation that i know of, had it for 2 years, and i ran better when i sold it, than what it did brand new..

    Binning dont compensate for skills.....

    2600mhz ram?, tighten them at 2400mhz instead. score about the same, if not better

    i am not saying the ivy e, sux.. But i think you got a much greater chance in the lottery with SBE

    Ivy the vcore slingshot............

    Cheers
    Last edited by Rockford; 01-07-2014 at 06:29 AM.

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    Follow you instinct Flex..........

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    so you are saying if i get one that does 52x i am unlucky?
    52x sounds good to me coming from haswell i went true 6 chips and only 1 went over 45x :P
    so i am leaning more and more towards sandy then tnx m8 for info

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    Just look in our team, many of us started off with the SBE, and all of us ended up at 5200mhz or more,Menthol 5,500mhz on water? Hmmmmmm

    ill be damn if he didnt bin for that chip..
    Last edited by Rockford; 01-07-2014 at 07:02 AM.

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