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what is wise? 4930k VS 3930k/3960x

flexnl
Level 10
I have sold my haswell rig all together for a good price and im starting from scratch
i am going for x79.
i read everywere that ivy-e clocks bad so now i wonder if it isnt smart to go for sandy-e.
which would bring me the better Benchrig? ivy-e or sandy-e
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HiVizMan
Level 40
You have to bin to get a good CPU with both of them. Simple as that.
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HiVizMan wrote:
You have to bin to get a good CPU with both of them. Simple as that.

Agree 100% HiVizMan! :cool: and yes that is my 24/7 Clock in my Sig.
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FireRx wrote:
Agree 100% HiVizMan! :cool: and yes that is my 24/7 Clock in my Sig.


4.8GHz with Phase Change cooling is seriously underachieving. You should be able to take it beyond 5GHz. Pump some vcore into that chip, it'll never overheat with Phase Change cooling. I've got my 3930k @5.1GHz with 1.488v and it can go way higher with more time and tweaking.
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Retired
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SBE got my vote for benchmarking. i have owned 2 chips, and both of them performed the same..

chrisnyc75
Level 12
Ivy-E, because the clock-for-clock comparison method is misleading, and reports of poor overclocking are exacerbated by users on low-end mobos with bad bios. 4.6ghz @ 1.4v is the average "max oc" on 4930K, and it will outperform a SB-e at 4.8ghz. And that's not even taking into account the stronger IMC. You do the math. 🙂
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Arne_Saknussemm
Level 40
Hmm it's a difficult one and one I have just been facing in a roundabout way...I have gone with SB-E until now... it does seem true you knock 300MHz off SB-E and IB-E keeps up....SB-E at 5.0 GHz is matched pretty much by IB-E at 4.7GHz. But if you can't get IB-E past 4.6 then maybe a SB-E....

IB-E has more robust IMC...and can handle higher frequencies but the timings of IB-E kits are another story....

Viz has a good Ivy....Menthol got a pretty decent one...4.9GHZ but he's going back to sandy....it's a difficult one mate.

I have voted SB-E in the poll because that's the way I went...but I have investment in SB-E and SB-E RAM etc....

Starting from scratch I might well have gone RIVBE and IB-E.

Retired
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i assumed TS was talking about using the chip for benchmarking at around 5200-5300 mhz

the chance of scoring a 5200mhz SBE, is huge , i think most of them will do 5200mhz without any major concerns..

Arne_Saknussemm
Level 40
Well, you're right, for those frequencies I'd say the lottery would be a lot easier with SB-E...with IB-E you'd have to be real lucky...

kkn
Level 14
you can buy my system 😄