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rodimus
Level 7
So I'm kind decent with picking and building pcs, better at building though, so thats no issue.
I did read Marshall's thread on build advice, so ill use that to help a bit.
I do have a pc i could build upon but i do not like the fact that i would be bottlenecking for alot of things, and their is no room to expand inside the case.
Budget: $1,000 - $1,500
Main uses of intended build: gaming, movies, some use of photoshop
Parts required: everything besides optical, monitor, keyboard, mouse, mechanical drive
Previous build information (list details of parts): currently running a prebuilt/refurbished HP with
A4-3420
Pegatron 2ACF mobo (what cpuz says)
8gb of ddr3 667MHz
Radeon hd 6410D
Monitor resolution: 1280 x 1024 75Hz It does say i can have a 1600 x 1200 at 60Hz (It's a Dell 1702FP)
Storage requirements: SSD to put some games on, or maybe boot drive not sure
Will you be overclocking: most likely no
Any motherboard requirements (no. of USB, Xfire/SLI, fan headers): just RoG unless it is affecting my budget
Extra information about desired system: I want a amd cpu and would like a amd gpu

What i have in mind: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/32BAq
I could get rid of the SSD's to make room for something else if need be. Im not very sure about the ram, i was told the ram would work by my one friend but i would rather make sure now before i buy. Other then that I want to see what other people thought about it, and how it would do.
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kkn
Level 14
rodimus wrote:

What i have in mind: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/32BAq

PCPartPicker
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an error in your link.
working link -> http://pcpartpicker.com/p/32BAq

IF you get the corsair PSU's range you can get sleeved cables as an extra ( just a hint so you dont have to do it your self ).
AMD have been on standstill the past 3 years when it comes to "new cpu generation" like gen 3 on PCIE and other parts.
there intel are ahead when it comes to that ( but more expensive ).
in my opinnion the diffrence on the 8350 and the one you listed aint mutch diffrence exept newer "gen" of it.

kkn wrote:
In my opinion the difference on the 8350 and the one you listed ain't much different except it is the newer "gen".


The biggest difference is the silicon. Intel chips and FX 8350 or less are all silicon lotteries. The FX-9000s just almost always have good silicon. If you take a look at the OC stats of FX chips on RoG, none of the FX-8000s can do 5GHz (Last time I checked) but a lot of the FX-9000s can.

I would drop the CPU to and FX-8350, and get 2x4GB AMD Gamer Memory to get a video card upgrade to the R9 280x DCII.
DO NOT CHEAP OUT ON THE PSU!!! It is the heart of your system. An 80+ Gold rated fully modular PSU will last longer, and save you some money. Cheapin' out on the PSU is like replacing the engine in your car with a 350cc motorcycle engine so you can afford a supercharger.
Say hi to the next generation.

Peace is a lie, there is only Passion

Through passion, I gain strength

Through strength, I gain victory

Through victory, my chains are broken

The Republic of Gamers shall free me

PowerOver9K
Level 9
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182073 That's the best "budget" 750W you can buy. Super Flower makes it so it's not a piece of crap. That's the non-modular varient. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182264 is the modular one.

Also 270 is not worth it. As A-Man says above try for the 280.

OCZ Vertex isn't good compared to Samsung EVO = http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-EVO-Series-2-5-Inch-MZ-7TE120BW/dp/B00E3W15P0

Do you also really want to be buying all these parts from 7 different sources?
Mobo: Rampage IV BE | CPU: i7-4930@4.5ghz Hexacore | RAM: 32GB Corsair V-Pro | GPU: 4xR9 290X Quadfire | PSU: eVGA P2 SuperNOVA 1000W\G2 850W | Chassis: NZXT Phantom 820 | Cooling: XSPC Raystorm CPU Block\4xEK 290X Block\2x Laing D5\XSPC Dual Bay Res\Phobya G-Changer 1080 External Rad\Alphacool 140UT60\XSPC AX360 | Fan Con: Lamptron CW611 | Tube: Primochill Adv. LRT Bloodshed Red | 3xCrossover 27" 2560x1440 Monitors | Build Log of Insanity

PowerOver9K
Level 9
http://i.imgur.com/nFYuWgk.png = $873.60 + mobo + a 780 GTX or 280X ~$1500... They are out of stock on the mobo and GTX 780 atm which is a better card than 280X
Mobo: Rampage IV BE | CPU: i7-4930@4.5ghz Hexacore | RAM: 32GB Corsair V-Pro | GPU: 4xR9 290X Quadfire | PSU: eVGA P2 SuperNOVA 1000W\G2 850W | Chassis: NZXT Phantom 820 | Cooling: XSPC Raystorm CPU Block\4xEK 290X Block\2x Laing D5\XSPC Dual Bay Res\Phobya G-Changer 1080 External Rad\Alphacool 140UT60\XSPC AX360 | Fan Con: Lamptron CW611 | Tube: Primochill Adv. LRT Bloodshed Red | 3xCrossover 27" 2560x1440 Monitors | Build Log of Insanity

kkn wrote:
PCPartPicker
404 Page Not Found
an error in your link.
working link -> http://pcpartpicker.com/p/32BAq

IF you get the corsair PSU's range you can get sleeved cables as an extra ( just a hint so you dont have to do it your self ).
AMD have been on standstill the past 3 years when it comes to "new cpu generation" like gen 3 on PCIE and other parts.
there intel are ahead when it comes to that ( but more expensive ).
in my opinnion the diffrence on the 8350 and the one you listed aint mutch diffrence exept newer "gen" of it.


Fixed the link, droped to a 8350, uped the case to a phantom 630, currently looking back into liquid cooling.

Antronman wrote:
The biggest difference is the silicon. Intel chips and FX 8350 or less are all silicon lotteries. The FX-9000s just almost always have good silicon. If you take a look at the OC stats of FX chips on RoG, none of the FX-8000s can do 5GHz (Last time I checked) but a lot of the FX-9000s can.

I would drop the CPU to and FX-8350, and get 2x4GB AMD Gamer Memory to get a video card upgrade to the R9 280x DCII.
DO NOT CHEAP OUT ON THE PSU!!! It is the heart of your system. An 80+ Gold rated fully modular PSU will last longer, and save you some money. Cheapin' out on the PSU is like replacing the engine in your car with a 350cc motorcycle engine so you can afford a supercharger.


Ive added in changes like you said, if ram all of a sudden drops when i buy them, ill grab more. The PSU was actually recommended by my friend because thats what he uses.

PowerOver9K wrote:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182073 That's the best "budget" 750W you can buy. Super Flower makes it so it's not a piece of crap. That's the non-modular varient. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182264 is the modular one.

Also 270 is not worth it. As A-Man says above try for the 280.

OCZ Vertex isn't good compared to Samsung EVO = http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-EVO-Series-2-5-Inch-MZ-7TE120BW/dp/B00E3W15P0

Do you also really want to be buying all these parts from 7 different sources?


Up'd to a 280x along with the sdd. I personally have never heard of any good/bad from a rosewill psu. As for buying them from different sources, if their is a major price difference i will buy it from there, otherwise ill be using newegg/amazon for everything.

PowerOver9K wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/nFYuWgk.png = $873.60 + mobo + a 780 GTX or 280X ~$1500... They are out of stock on the mobo and GTX 780 atm which is a better card than 280X


I remember reading somewhere that a 780 isnt worth it when you have the ti version, and i am a amd diehard.


As for changing the case to a phantom 630, should i go for a larger water cooler for the cpu? I also was looking at the Kraken G10, would it be worth the money to get a 120/140 mm water cooler on that, i know if im over clocking it, it will make a difference but i have no experience in overclocking, so i'm not sure if it will turn out good or just kill it.
And heres a link to what i currently have picked, fans im unsure about due being unsure on water cooling.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/335SE

kkn wrote:
PCPartPicker
404 Page Not Found
an error in your link.
working link -> http://pcpartpicker.com/p/32BAq

IF you get the corsair PSU's range you can get sleeved cables as an extra ( just a hint so you dont have to do it your self ).
AMD have been on standstill the past 3 years when it comes to "new cpu generation" like gen 3 on PCIE and other parts.
there intel are ahead when it comes to that ( but more expensive ).
in my opinnion the diffrence on the 8350 and the one you listed aint mutch diffrence exept newer "gen" of it.


Fixed the broken link. Picked out a corsair PSU, 750w 80+ gold.

Antronman wrote:
The biggest difference is the silicon. Intel chips and FX 8350 or less are all silicon lotteries. The FX-9000s just almost always have good silicon. If you take a look at the OC stats of FX chips on RoG, none of the FX-8000s can do 5GHz (Last time I checked) but a lot of the FX-9000s can.

I would drop the CPU to and FX-8350, and get 2x4GB AMD Gamer Memory to get a video card upgrade to the R9 280x DCII.
DO NOT CHEAP OUT ON THE PSU!!! It is the heart of your system. An 80+ Gold rated fully modular PSU will last longer, and save you some money. Cheapin' out on the PSU is like replacing the engine in your car with a 350cc motorcycle engine so you can afford a supercharger.


Changed what you recommended. If ram suddenly drops in price a good enough amount ill grab more then 8gb.

PowerOver9K wrote:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182073 That's the best "budget" 750W you can buy. Super Flower makes it so it's not a piece of crap. That's the non-modular varient. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182264 is the modular one.

Also 270 is not worth it. As A-Man says above try for the 280.

OCZ Vertex isn't good compared to Samsung EVO = http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-EVO-Series-2-5-Inch-MZ-7TE120BW/dp/B00E3W15P0

Do you also really want to be buying all these parts from 7 different sources?


Changed the SSD over to the evo, never heard anything good or bad about rosewill, but ive heard alot of good from corsair so chose that. No i dont plan on buying them from all these different places, i will buy it from somewhere else if it is a major price difference.

PowerOver9K wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/nFYuWgk.png = $873.60 + mobo + a 780 GTX or 280X ~$1500... They are out of stock on the mobo and GTX 780 atm which is a better card than 280X


Personally i am a amd diehard, so ill stick with that, also i have heard that a 780 isnt worth it, but the ti version is, havent really looked at the specs/benchmarks of them. but that isnt bad

As for the over all build, i changed the case to a 630 phantom, as for water cooling i could go with a Kraken X60 on the cpu. I did have 2 friends recommend that i run water cooling on my gpu too, and noticed the Kraken G10 with a X40 on it. Is it worth the money to step up to the kraken X60, or use something smaller, and for the gpu is it really worth it for me to get the water cooling on the gpu?
Havent picked any fans due to unsure about water cooling yet.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/335SE

Antronman
Level 10
NZXT and Corsair have the best closed loops.
For fans, I recommend the Corsair SP120 series and the Noctua NF-F12 fans.
Say hi to the next generation.

Peace is a lie, there is only Passion

Through passion, I gain strength

Through strength, I gain victory

Through victory, my chains are broken

The Republic of Gamers shall free me

PowerOver9K
Level 9
Rosewill's 750 Capstone is made by Super Flower. It's the best PSU around 99 bucks. You can ask the Overclock.Net PSU forum all about it and I'm guaranteeing they will tell you it's the best one around $99.

. I understand being a brand person ( I have 3x290x right now), previous rig had 2x NVIDIA 690 SLI. I've been sticking two graphics cards together as much as I can since I had two 12MB Voodoo2's. The 780 is a better card for the money however.

Don't get the RADEON ram. The chips themselves are utter junk. Get some G.SKILL. If I remember correctly AMD does not read XMP profiles and high RAM speeds don't really go into play on it. (I'm an Intel guy, if I'm wrong someone tell me otherwise)
Mobo: Rampage IV BE | CPU: i7-4930@4.5ghz Hexacore | RAM: 32GB Corsair V-Pro | GPU: 4xR9 290X Quadfire | PSU: eVGA P2 SuperNOVA 1000W\G2 850W | Chassis: NZXT Phantom 820 | Cooling: XSPC Raystorm CPU Block\4xEK 290X Block\2x Laing D5\XSPC Dual Bay Res\Phobya G-Changer 1080 External Rad\Alphacool 140UT60\XSPC AX360 | Fan Con: Lamptron CW611 | Tube: Primochill Adv. LRT Bloodshed Red | 3xCrossover 27" 2560x1440 Monitors | Build Log of Insanity

PowerOver9K wrote:
Rosewill's 750 Capstone is made by Super Flower. It's the best PSU around 99 bucks. You can ask the Overclock.Net PSU forum all about it and I'm guaranteeing they will tell you it's the best one around $99.

. I understand being a brand person ( I have 3x290x right now), previous rig had 2x NVIDIA 690 SLI. I've been sticking two graphics cards together as much as I can since I had two 12MB Voodoo2's. The 780 is a better card for the money however.

Don't get the RADEON ram. The chips themselves are utter junk. Get some G.SKILL. If I remember correctly AMD does not read XMP profiles and high RAM speeds don't really go into play on it. (I'm an Intel guy, if I'm wrong someone tell me otherwise)


I started to read reviews on the ram.. and yeah, i would go with G.skill but in the reviews it is said that they dont like to pair up with other G.skill ram, which im not sure if its G.skill all around, or just that ram i was looking at. I saw 8gb single stick ram and 2x4gb sticks, both around the same price, both corsair and g.skill. Also would it be better to get a single stick or 2 4gb sticks?

8gb g.skill: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231719
2x4gb g.skill: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428
8gb corsair: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233218
2x4 corsair: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233527

Antronman wrote:
NZXT and Corsair have the best closed loops.
For fans, I recommend the Corsair SP120 series and the Noctua NF-F12 fans.


NZXT i have heard good and.. very bad about.. aparently has fried peoples mobos and such, so i think ill go for the corsair.. lol
On the fans i have heard nothing but good from both corsair and noctua fans, im not really worried about how loud it will be so ill be looking into those fans.

Changed the water cooler to a Corsair H100i, ram unsure yet. Was thinking of using 2 200mm fans in push/pull on the radiator, but im assuming one will have a higher cfm unless i get it just right with the rpms, which just sounds like a pain...
So ill go with the corsair fans, unless using the 200s wouldn't be a bad idea. What do you guys think?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/341qY