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    ROG 師傅 Array Arne Saknussemm PC Specs
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    MotherboardROG ZENITH EXTREME
    ProcessorTHREADRIPPER 1920X
    Memory (part number)F4-3200C14Q-32GVK
    Graphics Card #1GTX Titan X
    Graphics Card #2SLI is dead to me
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    Graphics Card #4Quad SLI is dead to everybody especially my credit card
    Sound CardXonar Essence STX
    MonitorASUS ROG Swift PG279Q
    Storage #1Samsung 950 PRO
    Storage #22x OCZ VERTEX 3/2x WD Caviar Black 500GB / 2x WD RED 2TB
    CPU CoolerCustom Loop: Dual D5s, Dual Alphacool Monsta 480s, XSPC Raystorm Neo TR4, EK TitanX WaterBlock
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    Hope you got a good price for that CPU...it was a good one!

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    Memory (part number)TEAMGROUP-UD4-3200@4133C19
    Graphics Card #1STRIX R9 FURY
    MonitorMX279
    Storage #1960 EVO 250
    CPU CoolerEK Supremacy
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    not that bad
    now AMD for some time or maybe a G3258 just for fun
    you ---- X99 ?

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    ROG 師傅 Array Arne Saknussemm PC Specs
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    Graphics Card #1GTX Titan X
    Graphics Card #2SLI is dead to me
    Graphics Card #3Tri SLI is even dead to Nvidia
    Graphics Card #4Quad SLI is dead to everybody especially my credit card
    Sound CardXonar Essence STX
    MonitorASUS ROG Swift PG279Q
    Storage #1Samsung 950 PRO
    Storage #22x OCZ VERTEX 3/2x WD Caviar Black 500GB / 2x WD RED 2TB
    CPU CoolerCustom Loop: Dual D5s, Dual Alphacool Monsta 480s, XSPC Raystorm Neo TR4, EK TitanX WaterBlock
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    Good stuff!

    Yeah, have some DDR4 arriving tomorrow....8 cores will be great for err..well, you know...stuff...

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    ROG Guru: Orange Belt Array darkage PC Specs
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    Storage #1960 EVO 250
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    hope you get a "special" one this time :-)
    a lot new things to learn for what i have been reading

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arne Saknussemm View Post
    Got some PK-3 today to see if there are any improvements over my big favourite (since Paw pointed me in the right direction) PK-1:
    Attachment 40927

    Better specs
    Attachment 40928

    And you can see how they've done it...by cramming in more nano dust and using less oil...
    Attachment 40929

    What this means practically, is it is not as easy to spread by any means...I found heating it up to be the best for spreading and in fact using it cold I wouldn't bother..too much hassle..PK-1 much easier to use.

    Results at 28 ambient:

    Idle PK-1
    Attachment 40930
    Idle PK-3
    Attachment 40931

    Too close to call really 25.08 and 25.16

    Prime PK-1
    Attachment 40932
    Prime PK-3
    Attachment 40933

    Too close? or is there a small gap there...52.16 PK-1 / 51.83 PK-3

    In the end the ease of use of PK-1 and the ease of spreading are going to get you a good thin layer and good temps...PK-3 you have to have your technique down..though if you do you might get better temps.

    I'll check again in a couple of days to see if the PK-3 slowly spreads thinner under the pressure of the block and improves....
    Thanks for sharing Arne!

    Considering how off the thermal sensors in the cpu usually are I think it's to close to call. Sometimes mine show temps like 5C below the ambient temp

    I need to get some of that good paste, I've got like MX-4 I believe and a 30g tube of white colored arctic something cheapo paste. I mean I've delidded and lapped the cpu(3770k) and used liquid metal stuff on the cpu die. and a 1080 rad. The least I can do is use good thermal paste, makes no sense when you think about it
    Last edited by twisted1; 09-12-2014 at 11:29 AM.

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    ROG 師傅 Array Arne Saknussemm PC Specs
    Arne Saknussemm PC Specs
    Laptop (Model)Laptop?...No way! (Model?...Jun Amaki...yes way!)
    MotherboardROG ZENITH EXTREME
    ProcessorTHREADRIPPER 1920X
    Memory (part number)F4-3200C14Q-32GVK
    Graphics Card #1GTX Titan X
    Graphics Card #2SLI is dead to me
    Graphics Card #3Tri SLI is even dead to Nvidia
    Graphics Card #4Quad SLI is dead to everybody especially my credit card
    Sound CardXonar Essence STX
    MonitorASUS ROG Swift PG279Q
    Storage #1Samsung 950 PRO
    Storage #22x OCZ VERTEX 3/2x WD Caviar Black 500GB / 2x WD RED 2TB
    CPU CoolerCustom Loop: Dual D5s, Dual Alphacool Monsta 480s, XSPC Raystorm Neo TR4, EK TitanX WaterBlock
    CaseNope!...Phobya Bench...let it all hang out man!
    Power SupplySeasonic SS-1200XP3
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    Mouse G502 or Speedy Gonzalez...not Mickey...don't do Disney!
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkage View Post
    hope you get a "special" one this time :-)
    a lot new things to learn for what i have been reading
    Hmmm, we'll see...the old silicon lottery...kind of exciting...until you don't win LOL

    Yeah and the new stuff is half the fun of changing...


    Quote Originally Posted by twisted1 View Post
    Considering how off the thermal sensors in the cpu usually are I think it's to close to call. Sometimes mine show temps like 5C below the ambient temp

    I need to get some of that good paste, I've got like MX-4 I believe and a 30g tube of white colored arctic something cheapo paste. I mean I've delidded and lapped the cpu(3770k) and used liquid metal stuff on the cpu die. and a 1080 rad. The least I can do is use good thermal paste, makes no sense when you think about it
    Same here some cores below ambient but it's EK stuff you know! LOL

    Part of the reason I don't go too near the top end of the chip...don't want reality to bite you in the ass while in bad sensor dreamland

    And yeah I saw that horrible stuff you put on the 3930 the other day...half decided I wasn't going to speak to you again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luumi View Post
    Arne would you like to race some 5ghz 32m with me :P? I got the right tools now but buggy mem.

    http://hwbot.org/image/1232031.jpg
    Yeah, really bad sticks there, only 2780Mhz CL7

    I could take them of your hands no problemo

    Quote Originally Posted by darkage View Post
    hell you know i am a AMD (MAD) guy
    with the others is SB__SB-e__YB__YB-E__HASS__HASS-E__DDR3__DDR4 etc etc AVX MX CS 1__2__3--6 ////1156__1155__1150__ brrr
    things are going to fast for me
    AM3 for another 2 years things go slow here
    by the way just sold all my X79 system
    cheers
    My RIVE just died so I need a new one, to bad you already sold yours.

    You should absolutely get a Pentium AE btw, they're great fun. I think I killed mine, delidd and liquid metal. Must have got some LM on the little capacitors on the cpu PCB. Seems silicone was not good enough insulation. It worked great, but the temps didn't get that much better so I decided to open the cpu up and add a bit more LM. And that did the trick! Code 00 :/

    To bad as it was a pretty good chip, rock stable @5Ghz and I've benched it up to 5,2Ghz.

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    ROG 師傅 Array Arne Saknussemm PC Specs
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    Laptop (Model)Laptop?...No way! (Model?...Jun Amaki...yes way!)
    MotherboardROG ZENITH EXTREME
    ProcessorTHREADRIPPER 1920X
    Memory (part number)F4-3200C14Q-32GVK
    Graphics Card #1GTX Titan X
    Graphics Card #2SLI is dead to me
    Graphics Card #3Tri SLI is even dead to Nvidia
    Graphics Card #4Quad SLI is dead to everybody especially my credit card
    Sound CardXonar Essence STX
    MonitorASUS ROG Swift PG279Q
    Storage #1Samsung 950 PRO
    Storage #22x OCZ VERTEX 3/2x WD Caviar Black 500GB / 2x WD RED 2TB
    CPU CoolerCustom Loop: Dual D5s, Dual Alphacool Monsta 480s, XSPC Raystorm Neo TR4, EK TitanX WaterBlock
    CaseNope!...Phobya Bench...let it all hang out man!
    Power SupplySeasonic SS-1200XP3
    Keyboard Logitech G810 or Fender Rhodes Electric Piano (MKI 73)
    Mouse G502 or Speedy Gonzalez...not Mickey...don't do Disney!
    Headset ...firmly on neck
    Mouse Pad Mouse don't got his own pad man...lives with me
    Headset/Speakers Edifier Spinnaker...or you mean the speakers in my head...man too many voices to name them all
    OS Win XP, 7, 8, 8.1 and Windows 10 Spyware Edition
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    Errr...I did say my temp testing was not so scientific...and I have been suffering a nice dose of flu this week....that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.

    I have two thermometers in the room, one by the door one on the bench and the aircon on to get 26degrees...and I have had everything at 26degrees

    But I just noticed that on some screenshots the GPU temp...which is a block that has remained fixed and therefore should not vary... has different readings on different screenshots so I'm thinking block difference might be worthless...who knows.

    In any case I ran the numbers and found a difference between Supreme HF and Supremacy blocks of 1.3 degrees (however GPU temp also differed by a degree up on Supreme runs so can't say that with any confidence) and NO difference between Supremacy and Supremacy EVO.

    What I did then is put on the aircon at 26....wait for both thermometers to get to stable 26 and the GPU to report 27...same as in these shots

    Supremacy EVO Idle PK-1
    Attachment 40959

    Supremacy EVO Prime PK-1
    Attachment 40960

    And compare these to PK-3

    Supremacy EVO idle PK-3
    Attachment 40962

    Supremacy EVO Prime PK-3
    Attachment 40964


    That gives PK-1 idle 22.42 / PK-3 idle 22.25

    PK-1 load 50.17 / PK-3 load 48.16!

    You can get different temps on a CPU just from redoing the mount and my temperature measuring is not in a lab..it's in my house so all in all I'm not going to buy a new block for a while or new paste...because I don't believe a word of what I've written here, a word from "independent" reviewers or from the manufacturers...

    Thank you for coming

    No, no refunds


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arne Saknussemm View Post
    Errr...I did say my temp testing was not so scientific...and I have been suffering a nice dose of flu this week....that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.

    I have two thermometers in the room, one by the door one on the bench and the aircon on to get 26degrees...and I have had everything at 26degrees

    But I just noticed that on some screenshots the GPU temp...which is a block that has remained fixed and therefore should not vary... has different readings on different screenshots so I'm thinking block difference might be worthless...who knows.

    In any case I ran the numbers and found a difference between Supreme HF and Supremacy blocks of 1.3 degrees (however GPU temp also differed by a degree up on Supreme runs so can't say that with any confidence) and NO difference between Supremacy and Supremacy EVO.

    What I did then is put on the aircon at 26....wait for both thermometers to get to stable 26 and the GPU to report 27...same as in these shots

    Supremacy EVO Idle PK-1
    Attachment 40959

    Supremacy EVO Prime PK-1
    Attachment 40960

    And compare these to PK-3

    Supremacy EVO idle PK-3
    Attachment 40962

    Supremacy EVO Prime PK-3
    Attachment 40964


    That gives PK-1 idle 22.42 / PK-3 idle 22.25

    PK-1 load 50.17 / PK-3 load 48.16!

    You can get different temps on a CPU just from redoing the mount and my temperature measuring is not in a lab..it's in my house so all in all I'm not going to buy a new block for a while or new paste...because I don't believe a word of what I've written here, a word from "independent" reviewers or from the manufacturers...

    Thank you for coming

    No, no refunds

    In my experience the GPU temp sensors are more accurate. I have a water temp sensor in my bench rig loop. And if that's accurate which it seems to be when I have the rad outside the temp of the water is basically the same as the outdoor temp or a few degrees above that. And the gpu temp is almost always two degrees above the water temp pretty much stable when in idle.

    And core 1 should in theory be the hottest one since windows puts load on that core first, then the next and so on(If I'm not mistaken, which I very well may be). But realtemp always gives me lowest temp on core 1, for some odd reason.

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    Laptop (Model)Laptop?...No way! (Model?...Jun Amaki...yes way!)
    MotherboardROG ZENITH EXTREME
    ProcessorTHREADRIPPER 1920X
    Memory (part number)F4-3200C14Q-32GVK
    Graphics Card #1GTX Titan X
    Graphics Card #2SLI is dead to me
    Graphics Card #3Tri SLI is even dead to Nvidia
    Graphics Card #4Quad SLI is dead to everybody especially my credit card
    Sound CardXonar Essence STX
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    Funny how things go...this build never really got off the ground...

    Plenty of problems...from awful cables from Shakmods to bad IB-E samples...from GPU RMAs to twitchy RIVBE BIOS and current settings....

    Never really convinced...

    So out with the old, in with the new! Half the fun of tech. Everything bar the cooling loop goes on E-Bay!

    And a Black and Red ROG build will rise from the ashes: http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread...ne-s-RVE-build

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