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    Good read for AMD fans

    http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/05/...y-of-pc-chips/

    I know we have several hardcore AMD fans here, and this is an insightful chat with their CEO. While he's not said "YEA WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE FX CHIPS!" AMD are 'on the up' and they've just announced K12 which should hopefully see the 'limitations' of the Bulldozer days behind us and some investment in new high-end PC hardware to complement their graphics. I hope.

    Relating to our other thread (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread...ying-out/page2), he predicts the PC market to drop up to 10% then stabilize, which is also good news.

    I think he's definitely right not to follow the mobility route given Intel's most recent earnings report. The margins are too low and there are many well established players. You'd need to ship billions of devices. AMD has expertise and IP in server, so it should aim for that. It's a good decision.

    What got me thinking was that there's still ample opportunity in high-performance/gaming for another company to do a 'semi-custom' FX chip at a competitive price. As much as I'm a fan of Intel systems, competition and choice is better.

    EDIT: Ah bugger.. looks like K12 is an evolution of low power/lower performance AM1, rather than Bulldozer.

    http://images.anandtech.com/doci/799...25.47%20AM.png
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    Don't get too disappointed.

    We might just see a hefty 8-core come out of it all.
    After all, Kaveri currently has the room to support it, if it can fit what...12 GPU cores + 4 CPU cores?
    We might just see "semi-custom" chips like in the new consoles. Only a tad more powerful.
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    Are AMD's fans rated as high as some of Noctua's?

    lol - good read, though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Zchivago View Post
    Are AMD's fans rated as high as some of Noctua's?

    lol - good read, though
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    Well Dr. Z, it looks like Corsair has the highest static pressure static pressure fans. Louder, yes. But more SP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antronman View Post
    Well Dr. Z, it looks like Corsair has the highest static pressure static pressure fans. Louder, yes. But more SP.
    Not just louder, but 60% higher rotational speed! The "Quiet Edition" is the better comparison since its speed is about the same.

    Even so, I like Noctua's colors and OMG they're quiet!!

    Z

    Edit: On a side note, the AlphaCool Monsta radiator I'm using performs AMAZING with the higher flow/lower pressure NF-P12 fans when compared to the NF-F12 fans I had on it originally.

    Gotta love the low fins /inch on a ridiculously deep radiator!!
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    I can't wait for CompuTex, to see if ASUS new range of AMD MBs will better support my chip.

    I'm happy with what I got atm, but this VRM heat issue hopefully will get sorted.

    I like the look of the Ranger.

    And Yea Noctua are good. I got a rig set up in push- pull config and got the 3.2GHz CPU clocked to 4.5GHz stable. There good quality units, and you can't hardly here them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeanMachine View Post
    I can't wait for CompuTex, to see if ASUS new range of AMD MBs will better support my chip.

    I'm happy with what I got atm, but this VRM heat issue hopefully will get sorted.
    .
    Not going to happen mate for 2 reasons.

    1. AMD Aren't bringing out a new chipset
    2. AM3/3+ reaches EOL(End of Life) at the end of this year

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    Thanks Marshall .. I agree .. on both counts.
    There is hope and competition is good.

    Companies move like schools of fish to profit, as they should.
    Just because there are no 'current' plans to release a new chipset
    does not mean such things are not on the drawing table if the
    market dictates.
    Just as I am sure ROG has some juicy ideas if AMD chooses to
    become a competitive player.

    And you guys with the air flow comparisons .. hahhaha .. I fell off my chair in enjoyment.
    Give the article a spin. .c.

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