***4K UHD Wallpaper Competition*** Rules and voting

[ShikelGr]

To be honest I was surprised that more people didn't do more around the Computex products - we had ~1/2 entries only covering the three motherboards and only an 'indirect' entry for the GX500 (the winner was high quality but I feel the group would have chosen a more product-centric one had it been done).

So you noticed my work, I am greatly appreciate it (I wish I had more time to polish it but...aah nvm). Somehow I knew it.
I've seen many high qualty and conceptual wallpapers in this competition, thou didn't voted, and that's a good challenge for me.
Also I would like to say a huge thanks to all ROG staff, and for all their hard work (pretty sad that so many people are cheating/complainig/moaning/scamming or trying to) and you have to deal with all these. But I'm sure you can find a way to bring next events/comps up to a higher standard.
p.s. btw how soon this comp wallpapers will be available for download? (like a link to whole pack in download section or kinda), cause the idea of downloading all af them manually one by one dejects me a lot.

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I'll put together a 4K pack soon.

Unfortunately someone else has demanded we remove their entries too, so it will be minus a few from the total.

[Bozzified]

To be honest I was surprised that more people didn't do more around the Computex products - we had ~1/2 entries only covering the three motherboards and only an 'indirect' entry for the GX500 (the winner was high quality but I feel the group would have chosen a more product-centric one

This is what's bizzare.. My wallpaper had a combination of products from Computex. I specifically targeted them. The new monitors, the g20, the keyboard etc.. Plus my other wallpaper had the new G500.
So I'm not sure what would be considered more product centric than that.

[Static_FX]

honestly.. I agree with the fact that voting was a bad idea... and then to allow new members to vote!!!?? that was a poor choice. Its not the first ASUS contest I have seen that has been botched. Look at the 25th anniversary contest! The number of people who enter with the same product (pic from a different angle) is unreal.. yet their entry is still there. No one removes them for cheating. Now the new best friends contest!?? most votes on FB wins?? LOL thats a total joke.. for $20 you can get 1000's of votes. All entries in the contest should have been presented to the staff with NO OUTSIDE voting.

just my opinion.

[pafflick]

It was always the case. It was never stated otherwise at any time. The fact is we amended the rules becauseof you guys; we REDUCED the new signup voting to just 1 vote instead of 3.

OK, maybe I / we misunderstood. I think AkaNe's post was a bit misleading, it sounded like you've changed the rules for new sign-ups afterwards... But never mind. It's not the case.

It's just cynical to assume everyone new is 'cheating' when we've been through to check and there's no evidence of this. People are genuinely joining because they want to express their love for an entry.

I've never said that anyone in fact was cheating here. All I was saying was just simply discussing how many possibilities is there to cheat and I hope that you're aware of them (or at least take notice). But it was all theoretical.

To be honest, number 10 got in with just 4 votes. Hardly overwhelmed with 'fake'/friends/new accounts.

I know, somebody even pointed that out already. There was probably no cheaters here - at leats there is no hard evidence for that...

Frankly I don't agree that you can look at 200 entries and decide a winner.

There wasn't even 200 votes, so you definitively wouldn't have to browse through so many entries. When you run this type of contest you have to predict how many entries there could be and how many people could vote (I know, it's difficult when you do this for the first time, but you already have some experience with these contests). Then you decide how many votes will qualify the entry (in my company the average is 30 votes, but it's a contest on facebook, so even though it's not global and the company doesn't have many fans, people still manage to get those votes). Then you get the most voted entries, but even if someone is cheating, they're not going to take out somebody else's entry. And since the jury picks a winner, everyone believes that it was a fair play. For me that's a win-win situation.

Of course it's hard to pick the winner. It's always been. But that's the jury's problem in pretty much every contest.

An alternative could have been staff votes count for 3/5 versus 1 for fans

That's not a good idea.

We run the competition to drive signups and to drive recognition for the brand - we advertise it on our portals worldwide so of the 100,000s of people that see it, some will inevitably join because they really like a work.

Just as I said before - we'll see how many users will stay on the forums and how many will no longer appear. But it's seems like a very inefficient method, since there was more entries than votes. There should be at least 3 times more votes than entries, so the top 10 would be more accurate. You can achieve it on portals like facebook, but on the other hand there would be definitely somebody trying to cheat.
I think that the biggest problem here is that such forums are not popular nowadays. That's why the contest was more popular among the creators, rather than people who liked their work. These people will surely profit from the fact that they have more wallpapers to choose from, but they didn't seemed concerned enough to leave their votes. It's because people are lazy; they maybe looked through all the entries, but it was too complicated for them to vote, since you've had to create an account and leave a post in the forums.

But this is all just my opinion, and as I said to Knotic, after all you run the competition and you give out the prizes, so it's all up to you how you'll do it and who'll get the prize.

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Thank you all for your entries and efforts, the prizes have been awarded and we're closing the competition now as no further discussion really required since everyone has made their points and it's been noted for next time.