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    X99 Mini-ITX/Mini-DTX?

    As my NCASE M1 Mini-ITX case has arrived I'm wondering if there will be Mini-ITX (Mini-DTX with 2xPCI-E 16x would be even better) motherboard for X99 platform. It looks like this platform is the only way to have >4 cores in the desktop PC in the foreseeable future so this can be useful. Is should also be possible to use additional PCI-E lanes for M.2 x4 slot without reducing GPU slot to 8x. So.. are there any plans for such motherboard?

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    There were no known LGA2011/X79 motherboards in the MiniITX form factor and I'm pretty sure we won't see LGA2011-3 in a MiniITX form factor either. The CPU socket is huge and even if only 4 DIMM slots are placed, there won't me much space left for the chipset.

    Besides that, MiniITX would be limited to one PCI-e 16X slot, so using even a 28-lane CPU would be a huge waste of unused PCI-e lanes.
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    Well... there is a 'narrow' variant of 2011 and probably SO-DIMM memory can be used for such board. Maybe ITX isn't needed but DTX would be great as 'gaming' ITX cases usually have at least two expansion slots anyway...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinyimp View Post
    Well... there is a 'narrow' variant of 2011 and probably SO-DIMM memory can be used for such board. Maybe ITX isn't needed but DTX would be great as 'gaming' ITX cases usually have at least two expansion slots anyway...
    DTX/Mini-DTX would be great but unfortunately dont think anyone is making motherboards and cases in these form factors.

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    Motherboards are rare but there are some cases. As I said all gaming ITX cases I know have 2 expansion slots to support dual-slot GPU coolers and as far as I know the only difference between Mini-ITX and Mini-DTX is the second slot so such cases (Silverstone SG05/06/07/08, BitFenix Prodigy, Lian Li TU100/TU200/Q08/Q11/Q18/Q25/Q28/Q33/Q35/Q36, NCASE M1, CaseLabs Mercury S3, etc) should support DTX.

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    Everyone seems to forget that M.2 uses 4 PCI Express 3.0 lanes and some x99 motherboards already come with 2x M.2 sockets. Then you have actual PCI Express interfaces that use 2x PCI Express 3.0 lanes each. A tiny Mini-ITX system could easily use 10 or more PCI Express 3.0 lanes just for the drive arrays.

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    DTX joined BTX in DOA state 10 years ago sorry. Might as well ask for Baby AT form factor. :P

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    Well... Mini-DTX motherboards are supported by most (if not all) of existing Mini ITX 'gaming' cases so this isn't quite the same situation. But Mini-ITX board would be great too (though Mini-DTX would be better )

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    Quote Originally Posted by <!> View Post
    There were no known LGA2011/X79 motherboards in the MiniITX form factor and I'm pretty sure we won't see LGA2011-3 in a MiniITX form factor either. The CPU socket is huge and even if only 4 DIMM slots are placed, there won't me much space left for the chipset.
    Sorry but that's flat out wrong, the was one X79 ITX board made and it was quite good but sadly didn't support over clocking, still it let one guy build a pretty awesome water cooled 3930K 4x4GB 2xHD7950 ITX Bitfenix Prodigy system

    That board had four DIMM slots, VRM/Chipset heatsinks, four SATA ports inc two SATA3, two 16x PCIE slots, two mini PCIE slots (one with MSATA support), USB3.0 header, plus a bunch of ports on the back including dual gigabit LAN.

    If ASUS or somebody made an ITX X99 board I would be all over it, I only use a single GPU as I like X79 for the cores and the RAM bandwidth so the ITX factor doesnt bother me, and besides if the board has two PCIE 16x slots like the X79 ITX did then you could run two single slot cards (like the guy with the X79 ITX build did).

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    The R&D versus sales is the big issue really. As vocal the minority that want one are, it doesn't translate into much volume for us worldwide. The R&D required to make a good mini-ITX board with a platform like this are considerable. What I am saying is, thanks for the feedback, but don't expect one.

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