MarshallR@ASUS wrote:
If it's only on our CN site, then it's currently only for China. 🙂

MarshallR, and if it's made in China it's only for China too? 😉

Come on man, spill it!, when are the Optimus Free ROG Laptops coming out?? 🙂

hmscott wrote:
MarshallR, and if it's made in China it's only for China too? 😉

Come on man, spill it!, when are the Optimus Free ROG Laptops coming out?? 🙂

Funny, when our G75's came out there was a lot of people wanting to use the Intel onboard Graphics, You guy's with the G750 got it and want to get rid of it. And so the circle goes!!

Clintlgm wrote:
Funny, when our G75's came out there was a lot of people wanting to use the Intel onboard Graphics, You guy's with the G750 got it and want to get rid of it. And so the circle goes!!

Clintlgm, it's really not funny at all... it's sad.

hmscott wrote:
Clintlgm, it's really not funny at all... it's sad.

Yes that they can't seem to figure it out so the ones that want it, get it. and the rest don't have to deal with it.

Clintlgm wrote:
Funny, when our G75's came out there was a lot of people wanting to use the Intel onboard Graphics, You guy's with the G750 got it and want to get rid of it. And so the circle goes!!

Exactly. We fed back that people wanted it for better battery life etc, they put it in, now others don't want it...

Regarding the X series, sorry but it's a complete waste of cash. You can't seriously OC in a laptop, and for $1000 no one will buy this. What IS worth developing is an external graphics solution - have internal Intel CPU only for lightweight, then dock/plugin to have a fullgaming experience with 'proper' GPU.

MarshallR@ASUS wrote:
Exactly. We fed back that people wanted it for better battery life etc, they put it in, now others don't want it...

Regarding the X series, sorry but it's a complete waste of cash. You can't seriously OC in a laptop, and for $1000 no one will buy this. What IS worth developing is an external graphics solution - have internal Intel CPU only for lightweight, then dock/plugin to have a fullgaming experience with 'proper' GPU.

MarshallR, I think the disconnect was that people believed they could have gaming on battery like they have it on AC power, and that isn't possible. So the effort to get that has put in a complex system that has a lot of holes that messed up the AC gaming experience - people wanted to keep that pure - and get the added ability to do gaming on battery. Optimus took away the pure gaming experience on AC, and didn't deliver the gaming experience on battery that was anticipated.

Taking the Intel only idea as you are suggesting would kill the ROG laptop completely. People aren't going to put up with having to have an external device to get high end gaming and only be able to take with them the Intel GPU in the laptop. That is really going to be a train wreck if you try to sell that as a gaming laptop - even if the external box can drive the internal monitor along with an external monitor - it's just too much stuff to lug around.

What we could use is a simple video switch. Switch in the Intel GPU on battery, and switch it completely out of the video path when on AC - and use the Nvidia / ATI high end solution exclusively on AC - and keep it all in the laptop - nothing external.

Actually, now that I think about it, if Asus is up for external boxes, lets see a big capacity battery in an external box that can plug into the AC adapter port on the laptop! That would be awesome. Then we could get hours of game play at full Nvidia/ATI speeds without the need for a low power GPU for battery 🙂

The purest gaming experience, without getting involved in a tweakfest to get the Nvidia/ATI GPU to be primary is what we want 🙂

Looks like MSI shares your idea.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2605879/this-msi-laptop-transforms-into-monster-gaming-rig-with-a-gig...

Is Asus considering to go in that same direction?

MarshallR@ASUS wrote:
Exactly. We fed back that people wanted it for better battery life etc, they put it in, now others don't want it...

Regarding the X series, sorry but it's a complete waste of cash. You can't seriously OC in a laptop, and for $1000 no one will buy this. What IS worth developing is an external graphics solution - have internal Intel CPU only for lightweight, then dock/plugin to have a fullgaming experience with 'proper' GPU.

ash11 wrote:
Looks like MSI shares your idea.
Is Asus considering to go in that same direction?

ASUS is already sharing this idea with the SilverStone's collaboration SG Station 2, which was the reason everybody could have understood the G750JZ had Optimus enabled (if an Italian video on Youtube showing it was not enough).
The big problem now is the creator of this technology: Intel. Intel is not creating innovative CPUs, so people can live with old CPUs, so Intel is clearly destined to go bankrupt or shrink to a smaller company. The development cost of new CPUs is growing and they are starting to need more time, which means even more money. So they found an amazing idea to make more money: motherboards with integrated CPU, new incompatible CPU sockets, they will try to put integrated CPUs inside gaming desktops too.
Thunderbolt could be Intel grim reaper (because of eGPU people could stop buying so often), so Intel is trying to prevent this by denying Thunderbolt certifications. At this point two ways are possible: Intel stops denying certifications or an alternative to Thunderbolt is created.

Will ASUS survive? Yes. Will the ROG notebooks survive? Maybe, but not the G750 lineage. Probably ASUS will move from developing gaming notebooks every 12 months and updating after 6 months, to developing every 24 months and updating after 12 months.
Desktop and notebook markets will shrink, GPU market will explode (until saturation of the eGPU market) and ASUS will be a major player.
The future belongs to modularity, the future belongs to your mobile phone. 🙂