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    First ROG laptop GL551JM-DH71, Questions.

    So I just purchased my first gaming laptop, a ROG GL551JM-DH71. I got it with the intent of using it for solidworks, gaming and general use. I'm currently in the US Navy so I chose a 15.6 laptop for portability. I was wondering if I could hear some feedback from owners on issues or good things. I bought it, a 256gb SSD, and an adapter to replace the optical drive with the 1TB that's in the main slot now and then put the SSD in that slot. I've seen the upgrade guide on this site so that's a lot of help. What can I expect in the area of gaming (skyrim, BL2, HL2, CS:GO, CS:S, TS3/4 and WOW). I know none of those are huge graphically strenuous games (except Skyrim om higher settings). Finally what are some recommended upgrades or accessories to go with the laptop. Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zjones1994 View Post
    So I just purchased my first gaming laptop, a ROG GL551JM-DH71. I got it with the intent of using it for solidworks, gaming and general use. I'm currently in the US Navy so I chose a 15.6 laptop for portability. I was wondering if I could hear some feedback from owners on issues or good things. I bought it, a 256gb SSD, and an adapter to replace the optical drive with the 1TB that's in the main slot now and then put the SSD in that slot. I've seen the upgrade guide on this site so that's a lot of help. What can I expect in the area of gaming (skyrim, BL2, HL2, CS:GO, CS:S, TS3/4 and WOW). I know none of those are huge graphically strenuous games (except Skyrim om higher settings). Finally what are some recommended upgrades or accessories to go with the laptop. Thanks in advance.
    Zjones1994, be aware that any laptop with Optimus will cause problems with Solidworks, unless you can disable Optimus. A number of people have reported this problem with the G750JS/JZ models, where people bought them to do rendering, then found that they couldn't get the application to use the Nvidia GPU, it would only go to the integrated iGPU on the Intel CPU.

    The GL551JM has Optimus, and unless something has changed, maybe in a new release of Solidworks, you will have problems.

    Asus has just release 2 new ROG G751JT/JY laptops without Optimus, those would be your best choice for the kind of work you need to do.

    They are 17.3" laptops though. You will find that 15" laptops don't have enough physical space to allow for the cooling needed for high end rendering - constant heat generation at full performance.

    The G751JT/JT has that cooling. The G751JM, and G750JM/JS/JZ all have Optiimus, so you can rule those out.

    If you can do work on another laptop, and only game on this one, then you will be fine as long as the game/app runs on the Nvidia GPU, and isn't locked to the Intel GPU, like Windows/IE/etc will be.

    Please come back and let us know how it works out.
    Last edited by hmscott; 11-16-2014 at 04:18 AM.

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    I'll keep that in mind. As of now my desire to use solidworks is solely to learn how so it isn't going to be a program I use regularly. I also have read from various reviews that you can set the default gpu to the G860 instead of switching between that and the integrated graphics. I can post my own findings on the subject when I receive the laptop hopefully sometime this week or early next week.

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    Zjones, are you on the Bush? I am and I bought a RoG 751 yesterday and I'm having a screen flicker issue.

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    I'm not. Im actually in a squadron attached to the stenis. On a side note my friend just got back from the bush with a charlie squadron

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    Zjones,
    what kind of SSD did you put in and where did you get the optical adapter. were you able to put your original optical faceplate on the adapter to make it look original?

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    I just purchased this laptop GL551JM-DH71, has not yet arrived. What have i gotten myself into?
    Question-I must know how to completely disable the intel graphics entirely !
    HP has this ability, why not ASUS? Is there a modified BIOS that would accomplish this? This seems
    a step backwards in technology, just as Win8. I am going to install Win 7 Ultimate64, and dual boot LinuxMint
    because Win8 is unusable, unthemeable, and complete spyware. So back on topic, does anyone have information on how to accomplish this, or shall i start the return process before it even arrives?
    ---------------------------------------------------------research below-----------------------------------------

    I agree with this post--->*****Quote from nvidia forum----The whole Geforce forum is repleted with users complaining about their own dedicated video card being inactive and their laptop being forced to use their Intel onboard card despite all possible tweaks in the nVidia CP. Incredibly nVidia provided no solution yet.
    I have a question for the nVidia support team: why should someone waste money in a laptop with nVidia card if he/she can't use it in first place?
    This behavior is simply outrageous.


    ----Update 1----

    I found this online- ( *For Dell, yet same issue*)

    * one of the diagrams in the white paper seems to indicate that the Nvidia card is still capable of doing direct rendering to a screen through it's own frame buffer, without any involvement from the Intel card - so long as the Nvidia card is preferred at a driver level. It looks like the only thing that matters is which card the screen is physically connected to - The nvidia card cannot render directly to a screen that is connected physically to the Intel card. Maybe, with some rework, I can hook up the primary display directly to the nvidia card.

    **********Further evidence that this is the case: When I hook up a second monitor to the laptop through the HDMI port, everything on that monitor is rendered with the Nvidia GPU, including desktop compositing.

    ----Update 2----

    *This was pulled from Toms Hardware*
    I've got a solution for you, but I don't know if you're gonna like it. Optimus is integrated into your windows, so the only way to get rid of it is to reinstall normal Windows 7 version (not the one that came with your laptop; though, the same key will work of course).
    Ok, spent the last few (4) hours reinstalling windows 7. This time I got all of the drivers directly from the manufacturers' sites.
    My frame rate on Just Cause 2 went from 7fps to a perfect 60fps. Thank you for telling me to reinstall!

    ----Update 3----

    I found this as well HERE-
    **it's because nvidia decide to force some programs to runs on intel GPU, some of these forced programs might not works properly on geforce (ie. media players due to a bug in geforce hardware video acceleration such as DXVA2, freezes issue, and other kind of annoying issue which doesn't happened on iGPU) and some of them just to keeps power usage low (helped saves the world from energy crisis a little ),
    they may not force the program later after the issue has been resolved, but right now they just had too many major issues to be resolved first
    If you want to control these forced programs, you will need to find their profiles using nvidia inspector and delete or modify them
    12-6-2014
    -END-

    ****Does anyone have any luck with these solutions ? How about an ASUS rep chime in here.****
    P.S. I posted this on Google+, and Nvidia forums. Maybe some exposure would help move the solution along ?

    Quote--https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYWzMvlj2RQ
    (at a hacker meetup in Finland, Torvalds laid into Nvidia, calling it “the single worst company” the Linux developer community has ever dealt with, complaining that the chipmaker doesn’t do as much as it could to ensure that its hardware plays nicely with his open source operating system. He even turned to the camera filming the event, flipped the company the proverbial bird, and dropped the proverbial F bomb.---
    “Nvidia, **** you,” he said, as the room erupted with applause and laughter.

    Nvidia did not immediately respond to a request for comment.)
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    Ive received the laptop and love it. To answer the questions no i can not comment on disabling the int. graphics full time but you can choose which graphics card to be used by certain apps in the nvidia control panel.
    As for the SSD and adapter i have a samsung 840 250 gb evo.
    The optical drive is a 9.5mm (very important). Here is the link, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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    That is a software solution, very bad one at that. For computer savy people a dedicated video card is just that, not acceptable to be forced to use it just one way. If I wanted that i would have gotten a MAC.
    P.S. SSD hard drives are not mature technologies as of yet for consumers, give it 3-5 years more, I have had 3 fail completely on me. all diff manufacturs', i just have normal use. Get a hybrid drive or stick with a reg hdd

    Quote Originally Posted by Zjones1994 View Post
    Ive received the laptop and love it. To answer the questions no i can not comment on disabling the int. graphics full time but you can choose which graphics card to be used by certain apps in the nvidia control panel.
    As for the SSD and adapter i have a samsung 840 250 gb evo.
    The optical drive is a 9.5mm (very important). Here is the link, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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    Laptop (Model)Asus G750JH-DB71 (legacy)
    MotherboardAsus G750JH Intel HM87
    ProcessorIntel i7-4700HQ XTU Cores 36x/35x/34x/34x Cache 36x -50mV undervolt
    Memory (part number)Hyundai Electronics HMT41GS6AFR8A-PB 1.35v DDR3L-1600MHz
    Graphics Card #1Nvidia 780m Asus GPU Tweak OC 932mhz/6300mhz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zjones1994 View Post
    Ive received the laptop and love it. To answer the questions no i can not comment on disabling the int. graphics full time but you can choose which graphics card to be used by certain apps in the nvidia control panel.
    As for the SSD and adapter i have a samsung 840 250 gb evo.
    The optical drive is a 9.5mm (very important). Here is the link, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Zjones1994, congrats on the new laptop, I hope it works as you need it to for a long time

    Good choice on the Evo SSD, they are reasonably priced and fast. Get the firmware updates if available, download the Magician software at the bottom of this link and it will download updates and install them for you. You can enable the RAPID caching software from there too, improves performance. Follow the Magician tool for setting Windows settings for optimal performance as well. You can even benchmark the SSD speed and save the results to watch performance over time.

    https://www.samsung.com/global/busin...SSD840EVO.html

    Have fun

    If you run into any problems, please come back and post questions, someone will be happy to help.

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