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    Laptop (Model)Asus G750JH-DB71 (legacy)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenite View Post
    Many of the drivers are going to be updated by the part manufactures anyway so it's not like Asus have so much work to do.
    But since we are talking about machines targeting gamers, the market audience will want the best driver integration to bring the best usage out of DX12.
    The machine is sold with X number of years of support, and that should be with reasonable consideration of recent improvements in technology. Which win 10 falls under
    Zenite, it would be nice if Asus explicitly supported Windows 10 on the G750/G751, and provided driver updates in their respective support areas - as they did with Windows 7/8/8.1 transitions.

    As you say the G750/G751 series are likely still mostly under warranty somewhere, and supporting current Windows releases for at least a couple of versions is typical.

    Lets cross our fingers that Asus does indeed support the G750/G751's already sold for Windows 10

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    Quote Originally Posted by hmscott View Post
    Lets cross our fingers that Asus does indeed support the G750/G751's already sold for Windows 10
    I just wonder.... Will DX12 unlock iGPU to work alongside descrete graphics inside G751 ??

    If so, will the cooling system keep it both cool while working simultaniously?

    That's what I keep my fingers crossed for!

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    Laptop (Model)Asus G750JH-DB71 (legacy)
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    Memory (part number)Hyundai Electronics HMT41GS6AFR8A-PB 1.35v DDR3L-1600MHz
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    Sound CardRealtek v6.0.1.7469 driver
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    Quote Originally Posted by escha View Post
    I just wonder.... Will DX12 unlock iGPU to work alongside discrete graphics inside G751 ??
    If so, will the cooling system keep it both cool while working simultaneously?
    That's what I keep my fingers crossed for!
    escha, sorry man, the Windows 10 upgrade won't grow connections to the iGPU on the motherboard

    It's a hardware design / connectivity issue. The iGPU will never work on non-Optimus laptops.

    This is a good thing.

    The iGPU is a bad idea that should die. Putting another heat generating processor on the same carrier as the CPU is stupid.

    Making all the computer video go through the lowest power GPU, forcing all graphics to default to the lowest power GPU, making all Windows OS and applications only work through the lowest power GPU, and then trying to sell that laptop with an expensive high end discrete GPU is deceptive and inexcusable.

    Why do people WANT the Intel GPU to be turned on in their otherwise wonderfully performing laptop??

    The only thing I can figure out is people always want what they can't have, and they will fantasize about what they are missing, ignoring all the facts and empirical evidence to their detriment.

    Read in the G750 forums posts from all the people wishing their Optimus G750's, that overheat, don't support >60hz internal display, apps that don't/won't use the Nvidia GPU, can't use their Nvidia Video controls to calibrate their displays, rendering that Thermal Throttles due to the iGPU heating up the CPU, and continually asking how to DISABLE Optimus and their Intel GPU - wishing they hadn't bought an Optimus laptop.

    Be thankful you will never know the horrors of Optimus up close and personal
    Last edited by hmscott; 05-02-2015 at 09:42 PM.

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    I don't think that's correct. The processor has access to both the iGPU and dedicated graphics card. It's up to DX12 and/or the game developer to then write the code to say if both exists, send block A of data to be processed to the iGPU (say physics) and block B of data to the dedicated graphics(frames).

    What's more, the change in DX12 can in fact allow you to combine a Geforce gfx card along side an AMD gfx card in the same machine and it will work. I understand they are also removing the 8+8=8 issue found in SLI graphics, so in theory you'll be able to utilise the max memory found across multiple graphics cards.

    As to why would someone want it? The same reason people pay thousands to a top end laptop or better graphics card in their system. the extra 5-10 FPS gives you an advantage.

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    Last edited by Zenite; 05-04-2015 at 04:43 PM.

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    @hmscott
    that's the point - I don't want igpu in Optimus conf...
    I love that my g751jy doesn't have it, thats the reason i bought it first place...

    I'd just love to have a choice wether to utilise or not the extra gpu unit my laptop anyway has (i7-4860hq/iris 5200 > just inactive)
    If it will cose some lack of power or heat issues then ok...
    Unless You are sure (like saw the schemes of MB cpu socket) that there are no physical connections to igpu I will keep my fingers crossed for the ivent igpu can be used alongside dgpu in conf that output is through nvidia unit!
    Thats what i relate to, this particular example: G751JY 980M (output) + Iris 5200 (meaning, 60+ fps displays works, nvidia control panel works, g-sync works)

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    ROG Guru: Platinum Belt Array hmscott PC Specs
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    Laptop (Model)Asus G750JH-DB71 (legacy)
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    Memory (part number)Hyundai Electronics HMT41GS6AFR8A-PB 1.35v DDR3L-1600MHz
    Graphics Card #1Nvidia 780m Asus GPU Tweak OC 932mhz/6300mhz
    Sound CardRealtek v6.0.1.7469 driver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenite View Post
    I don't think that's correct. The processor has access to both the iGPU and dedicated graphics card. It's up to DX12 and/or the game developer to then write the code to say if both exists, send block A of data to be processed to the iGPU (say physics) and block B of data to the dedicated graphics(frames).

    What's more, the change in DX12 can in fact allow you to combine a Geforce gfx card along side an AMD gfx card in the same machine and it will work. I understand they are also removing the 8+8=8 issue found in SLI graphics, so in theory you'll be able to utilise the max memory found across multiple graphics cards.

    As to why would someone want it? The same reason people pay thousands to a top end laptop or better graphics card in their system. the extra 5-10 FPS gives you an advantage.

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    Zenite, you missed my point, and "DirectX 12 Multi-Adapter Rendering" wasn't brought up - now that you have I can also tell you it won't work on non-Optimus laptops with 1 discrete GPU.

    The Intel GPU is completely non-accessible in the ROG non-Optimus laptops. It isn't connected - no wiring - dead un-powered inaccessible - zero access.

    Asus has confirmed this many times, and in the forums, you are welcome to open a Technical Inquiry and ask Asus directly:

    https://vip.asus.com <== create a login, register your laptop, file a Technical Inquiry and ask.

    If it was on, you wouldn't get 10fps more, but you would likely get 10c higher temp CPU with Thermal Throttling with the iGPU enabled

    There is a new build, 100074 + new Nvidia DX12 beta driver 352.63, put in a spare 2.5" drive, install it all, and see for yourself.

    Have fun
    Last edited by hmscott; 05-04-2015 at 05:49 PM.

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    Win 10 installed on a spare 1TB HD.
    Will start testing ...... so far so good.

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    ROG Guru: Platinum Belt Array hmscott PC Specs
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    Laptop (Model)Asus G750JH-DB71 (legacy)
    MotherboardAsus G750JH Intel HM87
    ProcessorIntel i7-4700HQ XTU Cores 36x/35x/34x/34x Cache 36x -50mV undervolt
    Memory (part number)Hyundai Electronics HMT41GS6AFR8A-PB 1.35v DDR3L-1600MHz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheetah View Post
    Win 10 installed on a spare 1TB HD.
    Will start testing ...... so far so good.
    Cheetah, nice. Are you running the new Nvidia DX12 beta driver 352.63 ?

    Are there any DX12 demo's or game's to run yet? I can't find any, just the video's of it running on other hardware.

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    been running windows ten since 9840, but haven't tried the new nvidia driver yet. i am still on 350. have any of you tried the 352 driver yet? while i
    generally really like windows ten, i do feel it gets worse with each new variant. i still think 9860 was the most stable, and best running version of it so far. let's hope ms gets it right in the end.
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    Nvidia DX12 beta driver 352.63 installed with Win 10.

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