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  1. #1
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    Exclamation Rampage V Extreme vs Maximus Formula VII


    I know the differences between the Rampage V Extreme VS. the Maximus Formula VII by brochure if we can call it that way.

    Anyway I own both motherboards with this setup

    Rampage V Extreme with a i7 5820K @ 4.43 GHZ - MB & Proc
    Kingston Predator DDR4 3000 mhz (4 x 4 GB Pack) - Mem
    CM Nepton 280L - Water Cooling
    Corsair AX 1200i - PS
    2 x Gigabyte GTX 980 G1 Gaming - Video Card
    Corsair 900D - Case
    SSD Kingston HyperX 3K (480 GB) - SSD

    The other setup is:

    Maximus Formula VII with a i7 4790K (stock) - MB & Proc
    GSKILL Trident X DDR3 (4GB x 2) 2400 MHZ
    CM Nepton 280L - Water Cooling
    EVGA Supernova 1300 G2 - PS
    1 x EVGA GTX 960 Ref. - Video Card
    CM Cosmos II Ultra Tower - Case
    SSD Kingston HyperX 3K (480 GB) - SSD

    Well Ive been running games and all sort of stuff, but my main question is this.

    Why a the Rampage V startup is twice the time of the Maximus Formula VII ??. I mean twice the time between the start button until Im in desktop. Both game same games, same UEFI installation, same SSD. I know I can disable in the Bios stuff to go faster in the boot time. But I am talking in stock, the Maximus Formula is twice as fast.

    Also for gaming I understand that the Maximus Forumula is more than enough. But for gaming and and nice OC, the Rampage V is the best (please let me know if Im wrong)

    Besides those two things, what else in real world are the difference for paying the real buck. I mean a X99 setup is almost as twice as expensive as a Z97 setup.

    Thanks for your time and please if I'm wrong please let me know, I just notice that because my wife plays in the Z97 setup and I'm playing in the X99 Setup and she always boots twice as fast !! gotta know why lol.

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    The X99 platform is way more complex than the Z97 platform. That means memory PCIe training take a little longer. An alternative to disabling things in the BIOS ia to put your system to sleep instead of shutting it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    The X99 platform is way more complex than the Z97 platform. That means memory PCIe training take a little longer. An alternative to disabling things in the BIOS ia to put your system to sleep instead of shutting it down.
    Thats a good way, but I was just asking to now about it.

    Besides the boot timing. Whats the real difference between them. Is it worth getting a X99 vs an Z97? Worth 2x price ?

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    ROG Member Array gamestoned PC Specs
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    Laptop (Model)Alienware X51
    MotherboardDell OEM
    Memory (part number)8 GB DDR3 1600Mhz
    Graphics Card #11.5GB GTX 660 OC +120core +525mem +87mv
    MonitorBenq XL2420T
    Storage #1WD 1TB HDD

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    Hi Atow,

    I'm in a situvation where I'm going to make a decision between the 2 boards you have.

    Intel Core i7-5820K Processor (15M Cache, up to 3.60 GHz)
    Asus RAMPAGE V EXTREME/U3.1 LGA 2011-v3 Intel X99
    G.Skill Ripjaws 4 16GB (4X4GB) 3000MHz Ultimate DDR4
    Cost = $1175-$1200 from the place I'm buying


    Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
    G.Skill TridentX 16GB (2X8GB) 2400Mhz DDR3
    Cost = $960-$1000 from the place I'm buying

    They are going to be suited with the following
    Corsair H110i GT Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
    SanDisk Extreme PRO 480GB Solid State Drive
    WD Black 4TB SATA 6 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 64MB Cache
    ASUS GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB GTX 980 TI-6Gd5
    Corsair Obsidian Series 750D Full Tower ATX Case
    Pioneer BDR-209DBK 16x SATA Internal BD/DVD/CD Burner
    Corsair AX860i 80+ Platinum Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
    Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan
    Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition 120mm Fan

    My questions
    1) Do you think the Z97 is better than X99 in terms of gaming/overclocking stability+performance
    2) I play mostly in 1080p now but going to get the ROG Swift 1440p monitor so which build is better for playing games with a 980 TI
    3) Is it worth to invest in X99 over Z97 now since already the new M170 boards are in market for Skylake processors + new DDR4 Ram clocks coming soon.

    Hope anyone in this forum can help me out here.


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    Moderator Array Nate152 PC Specs
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    MotherboardROG Maximus IX Code
    Processori7-7700k 5.2GHz Delidded
    Memory (part number)16GB G.Skill Trident Z 4025MHz 17-17-17-39-2T
    Graphics Card #1Titan Xp - EKFC waterblock
    Graphics Card #2Titan Xp
    Sound CardROG SupremeFX 2015
    MonitorHP ZR30w
    Storage #1Toshiba VX500 256GB
    CPU CoolerSwiftech Apogee GTZ
    CaseThermaltake Armor+ VH6000
    Power SupplyEVGA Supernova 1600w Titanium
    Keyboard Cyberpower Skorpion K2
    Mouse ROG Chakram Core
    Headset Sennheiser HD6XX / Modmic 5
    Mouse Pad Steelseries QCK Prism XL
    OS Windows 10 Home 64 bit
    Accessory #1 Asus optical drive
    Accessory #2 Koolance ERM-2K3U
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    Hello gamestoned

    If you're just gaming the z-97 with a 4790k cpu would be the best choice price to performance.

    The only reason I see to go with the x99 platform for gaming is if you're doing 3 way or 4 way sli. You'd need the 5930k or 5960x with the available 40 pcie lanes. The z97 boards that support 3 way and 4 way sli have a plx chip that adds the pcie lanes which introduces a slight latency.

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    even in 2 way sli u lose about 3-4 fps on a non 40 lane board, but yea i guess it is pretty small number but i just had to have 5930k just like the sound of it hahah and the fact that a 4.7ghz 4790k is 10 fps slower in games than a 4.7ghz 5930k, but depends if 10-14 fps is worth that extra money to ya but in games that use more cores than 4 which quite a few do now like dying light and bf4 u can ezily see a 30+ fps increase

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    ROG Guru: Black Belt Array Korth PC Specs
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    MotherboardASUS X99 R5E (BIOS2101/1902)
    ProcessorHaswell-EP E5-1680-3 SR20H/R2 (4.4GHz)
    Memory (part number)Vengeance LPX 4x8GB SS DDR4-3000 (CMK32GX4M4C3000C15)
    Graphics Card #1NVIDIA Quadro GP100GL/16GB, 16xPCIe3, NVLink1 (SLI-HB)
    Graphics Card #2NVIDIA Quadro GP100GL/16GB, 16xPCIe3, NVLink1 (SLI-HB)
    Sound CardJDS Labs O2+ODAC (RevB), USB2 UAC1
    MonitorASUS PG278Q
    Storage #1Samsung 850 PRO 512GB SSDs, 4xSATA3 RAID0
    Storage #2Comay BladeDrive E28 3200GB SSD, 8xPCIe2
    CPU CoolerRaijintek NEMESIS/TISIS, AS5, 2xNH-A14
    CaseObsidian 750D (original), 6xNH-A14
    Power SupplyZalman/FSP ZM1250 Platinum
    Headset Pilot P51 PTT *modded*
    OS Arch, Gentoo, Win7x64, Win10x64
    Network RouterActiontec T3200M VDSL2 Gateway
    Accessory #1 TP-Link AC1900 Archer T9E, 1xPCIe
    Accessory #2 ASUS/Infineon SLB9635 TPM (TT1.2/FW3.19)
    Accessory #3 ASUS OC Panel I (FW0501)
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    I'm speculating that future LGA2011-3 processors will support >40 lanes ... X99 running x16/x16/x16 (or more) multi-GPU is probably going to roll out in 2016. LGA1150 processors (and Z97 mobos) probably won't ever exceed x8/x8, and we're already seeing some extreme-tier GPU cards which can fully saturate PCIe 3.0 bandwidths. In short, while there are tradeoffs and special considerations between Z97 and X99 today, I expect (hope) that X99 will emerge as the clearly dominant winner within the next year or two.

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