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PGInformatique · ‎07-30-2015

Hi,

Here to have your thoughts...
I've just bought a G20AJ with i7 4790 16GB GTX970 for 1099€
I am happy with it but I think the 128GB SSD (with only 100 available) is a bit slow (KINGSTON RBU-SC100S37128GD).
I planned to buy a 850 PRO because I think it will be better but this is not the main question...
I can already see some new reference like G20CB-NR007T (Intel i5-6400 H170 GTX950 (2GD5) 8GB 128GB) that are between 1000 and 1200€. Do you think it is worth selling my G20AJ for a G20CB with 6th gen. processor (i7-6700?) before it starts to be commercialized? I think it will cost (a lot) more for the performance gain but we don't know the price yet...
DDR4 and M2SSD would be great for the future...

Thanks for any kind of help/opinion

steele_22 · ‎07-31-2015

In short HELL NO. The G20BC is way slower. Skylake sucks, it's focused on saving power and not performance. That GPU and CPU is slower than what you just got KEEP IT!

PGInformatique · ‎07-31-2015

steele_22 wrote:
In short HELL NO. The G20BC is way slower. Skylake sucks, it's focused on saving power and not performance. That GPU and CPU is slower than what you just got KEEP IT!

Thanks for your reply. Good point here, I'm thinking of keeping it. There is only one thing: I was talking about exchange it with new i7 (6700 I suppose), not with the new i5 I found the reference… GPU will be GTX 980 but at a higher price don't know if it worth the change with the 970 I have...

steele_22 · ‎07-31-2015

The GTX 970 will play anything just about maxed out at 1080P. And the 980 can't really play 4K so I'd either stick with the 970 or get a GTX 980 TI depending what resolution you play at. I do 1440P and I use to have a 970 and it worked great!! I have the 980 TI now and it's kinda over kill for a 60Hz monitor. So that will be my next upgrade 144hz IPS panel 😁

PGInformatique · ‎07-31-2015

steele_22 wrote:
The GTX 970 will play anything just about maxed out at 1080P. And the 980 can't really play 4K so I'd either stick with the 970 or get a GTX 980 TI depending what resolution you play at. I do 1440P and I use to have a 970 and it worked great!! I have the 980 TI now and it's kinda over kill for a 60Hz monitor. So that will be my next upgrade 144hz IPS panel ��

My monitor is VC239H so max 1080P and my TVs, if I would like to play on it, are the same..
So the choice is here:

i7 4790 vs 6700 - less than 10% difference
DDR3 vs DDR4
SSD vs SSD M2
GTX970 vs GTX980 (Ti??)
1099€ vs ????€

:rolleyes:

icwhatudidthere · ‎07-31-2015

Unless you're looking to push this box to 4K and will need every little bit of extra performance you can find, I don't see the upgrade being worth it. Or maybe if you're looking to use the box for VR, where every extra FPS will make a difference.

Otherwise, the only real benefit here isn't really performance but convenience. If the new model comes with a 980Ti then you won't have to worry about sourcing a higher output power supply down the road.

Ravenholme · ‎07-31-2015

look I have the G20AJ-US009S, added a Samsung Evo 850 500GB, used the Samsung software to clone the 1TB drive to it. wiped the 1tb made the SSD primary (took awhile back in march to figure it out) upgraded to 16GB RAM, replaced the video card (recently) to a 980ti, replaced the 230w PSU AC Adapter (not the 180W) with the 330W Y90RR from Dell/Alienware. a few of us have done this and it works. if you don't replace the 230 with the 330 you'll have to use MSI Afterburner and throttle power limit to 90%. then it'll stabilize. Also just upgraded to windows 10 (patching NVidia drivers first, only 1 monitor hooked up btw) all is well. runs great.

I'd hold on skylake, it's not worth doing just yet. BUT the USB 3.1 & capabilities of hooking up 4 SSDs sounds intriguing (though unnecessary really)

PGInformatique · ‎08-01-2015

Ravenholme wrote:
look I have the G20AJ-US009S, added a Samsung Evo 850 500GB, used the Samsung software to clone the 1TB drive to it. wiped the 1tb made the SSD primary (took awhile back in march to figure it out) upgraded to 16GB RAM, replaced the video card (recently) to a 980ti, replaced the 230w PSU AC Adapter (not the 180W) with the 330W Y90RR from Dell/Alienware. a few of us have done this and it works. if you don't replace the 230 with the 330 you'll have to use MSI Afterburner and throttle power limit to 90%. then it'll stabilize. Also just upgraded to windows 10 (patching NVidia drivers first, only 1 monitor hooked up btw) all is well. runs great.

I'd hold on skylake, it's not worth doing just yet. BUT the USB 3.1 & capabilities of hooking up 4 SSDs sounds intriguing (though unnecessary really)

Very nice mod :eek: I suppose the 330W is only because of the change GTX 760 -> 980Ti, and you don't need it in case of replacing the 970 (from a unit like mine that cames with it so I suppose the power is enough, even if I don't know exactly how much I have) with a 980 Ti?
Yes 3.1....Wonder when the first G20CB will be shown on Amazon...
I'm looking for 850 Pro or 850 Evo...Don't know if it worth the price difference... 😮
Did Win 10 Update successfully too with the NVidia Drivers update first :cool:

Ravenholme · ‎08-01-2015

Yeah the 230->330 swap was specifically for the 980ti's 250w card. The 970 doesn't need to, since it's a 165w card And the 230 can handle it.

PGInformatique · ‎08-04-2015

new on Amazon.fr: G20CB-FR011T :rolleyes: don't know the graphic card yet... and no USB 3.1?! no SSD?! or incomplete description...
and this one: G20CB-UA003T http://hard.rozetka.com.ua/asus_90pd01k1_m01910/p4028344/ WOW!

New G20CB appears...