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    My birth-father is a Southern Baptist preacher, and one of the most evil of people you could ever meet. So I do not give ANY organized religions ANY credence concerning either myself or my life. If you choose to believe in a farce made up by middle-aged, bigoted men over 2,000 years ago, then that is your problem and not mine.

    Good luck with that.
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    Back to our regularly scheduled program:

    The strange star that has serious scientists talking about an alien megastructure (from The Washington Post): http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/m...megastructure/

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    Made up by middle aged men over 2000 years ago?

    I take it you believe Jesus wasn't crucified on the cross.
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    Hardliner, I preceive that the subject isn't "who is God" but what is true about Life.

    So, any fanatic atheist can choked-hold science to their human desires.

    Examine these facts (esp regarding outer space aliens):

    Premise 1:
    Life produces life
    Answer = Verified seen billions of times

    Premise 2:
    Nothingness produces life
    Answer = never verified or re-produced

    Even when we CLONE Life, it is Life (living beings) doing it.

    BTW, a Matrix (soup kitchen) has a beginning.
    Infinity does not.
    Life (in and of itself known a Life) was Not created and to say otherwise is a false premise.
    Life existed in infinity via what we humans call God [creator] (always existed in Life and never had a beginning), thus eternal.
    Life creates Life which is verified in science billions of times over.
    Nothingness never produced life

    This thread is about Alien Life (primarily) as seen in science. God [creator] factors in when contemplating the origin of Life which a natural progression of the discussion.
    Do you concede to Premise 1? (Life comes from Life)
    Do you refute Premise 2? (Nothingness produces Life)
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    No one can prove that 'hey-zeus (notice that I did not capitalize the word)' was actually here.

    Something that is stupid as all get out is that in my state of the union, alcohol cannot be sold on either Sunday or December 25th, which was originally a pagan holiday before it was high-jacked by bigoted, misogynist, middle-aged men supposedly because of some cat named hey-zeus who supposedly died over 2,000 years ago. You know what, to-the-mythical-hell with that mythical ************, for discerning people nowadays are done with such idiotic nonsense.

    I am done with this conversation because your mind, in this life, has apparently not lived long enough to be able perceive when it is monumentally deceived. There is a reason why people have to be at least 35 years old to become a U. S. Senator and at least 38 (though it may also be 35--it has been over 20 years since I graduated college and my class of American Government) to be a U. S. President--because younger people are more easily deceived than older ones. 'Wisdom' is a REAL concept, my friend.

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    Again . . . back to our regularly scheduled program: The strange star that has serious scientists talking about an alien megastructure (from The Washington Post): http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/m...megastructure/
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    Quote Originally Posted by sk2play View Post
    Hardliner, I preceive that the subject isn't "who is God" but what is true about Life.

    So, any fanatic atheist can choked-hold science to their human desires.

    Examine these facts (esp regarding outer space aliens):

    Premise 1:
    Life produces life
    Answer = Verified seen billions of times

    Premise 2:
    Nothingness produces life
    Answer = never verified or re-produced

    Even when we CLONE Life, it is Life (living beings) doing it.

    BTW, a Matrix (soup kitchen) has a beginning.
    Infinity does not.
    Life (in and of itself known a Life) was Not created and to say otherwise is a false premise.
    Life existed in infinity via what we humans call God [creator] (always existed in Life and never had a beginning), thus eternal.
    Life creates Life which is verified in science billions of times over.
    Nothingness never produced life

    This thread is about Alien Life (primarily) as seen in science. God [creator] factors in when contemplating the origin of Life which a natural progression of the discussion.
    Do you concede to Premise 1? (Life comes from Life)
    Do you refute Premise 2? (Nothingness produces Life)
    You need to read a little bit more in life before you start posing existential questions in your arguments:

    Sagan, Carl
    |ˈsāgən|
    (1934–96), US astronomer; full name Carl Edward Sagan. He showed that amino acids can be synthesized in an artificial primordial soup irradiated by ultraviolet light, as a model for a possible mechanism of the origin of life on Earth. He wrote several popular science books and coproduced the television series Cosmos (1980).

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    Your washingtonpost.com link is broken.

    FYI, I am studied in the nature of Life on earth. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis

    I also know that never has any bomb created organized matter (BIG BANG). Massive bombs, massive explosions don't produce organized synchronicity as seen in the universe.

    I know that dark matter is ENERGY and Light had a beginning.
    God [creator] said, "Let there be Light" and there was "Light"
    NWT Isaiah 40:25 "But to whom can you people liken me so that I should be made his equal?" says the Holy One. 26 "Raise your eyes high up and see. Who has created these things? It is the One who is bringing forth the army of them even by number, all of whom he calls even by name. Due to the abundance of dynamic energy, he also being vigorous in power, not one [of them] is missing."

    Einstein's E=mc2

    I know that God [creator] is the origin of science and we know nothing without examining science (and math) first.

    I also know you couldn't (or refuse to) answer a definitive answer to Premise 1 & 2
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    Well then I also suspect you Hardliner think there was never a real Santa Claus or Dracula which are now mythical people too.

    Zeus and Poseideon were real people back in bronze age Greece.

    Life begins with water, without water there is no life and how we came about is still a mystery.

    And trying to find God would be like a cartoonist making a cartoon character then the cartoon character going around in the cartoon trying to find information about the cartoonist, it won't ever happen.

    But I know there is a God out there somewhere and he is probably a much more technologically advanced being than we could ever imagine. I think what would make you God is if you have the knowledge of the universe and know how to manipulate it, time, space and life all in a good way of course.
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    Daaam*** . . . I am listening to an interview right now with someone who is discussing different timelines that people seem to remember in the relatively recent history of this world. The lady says that about 30% of people who are old enough to recall remember Nelson Mandela dying while he was incarcerated, and that he was subsequently never set free. I do not remember that, but I was intrigued with there perhaps being different timelines than many of us remember so I kept listening.

    Then this lady says that most folks remember Darth Vader (me included!), in the epic scene where he light-sabers Luke's hand off, saying "Luke, I am your father!" I remember this scene VERY well for my own father is a hateful man and I sometimes play this historic movie scene in my head thinking about him (I was 7 years old when I first saw STAR WARS--"A New Hope," but we did not call it that hopeless **** back then, though--in a domed theater when it came out in 1977), and I have watched it a few times afterwards in my teenage years, but she went on to say that when you go back and watch the scene again, Vader says, "'No,' I am your father.":



    This is ****ing freaky. . .. I know what I know--and KNOW what I remember. . ..

    Daaam*** it . . . so there very well may be different timelines happening, here. . ..
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