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    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array RickSinGA PC Specs
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    Okay, cold boot this morning after sitting all night. Goes straight to Safe mode w/o services.

    So the way I see it when the system is cold it has a boot problem. Memory, HDD, Power Supply, Motherboard and chip are likely culprits.

    I think I will start with the memory, thanks Hawk that sounds logical. I know I should have some lying around somewhere, now to find it!

    I guess this will be a hit and miss deal over several days as everything seems to work just fine after warming up.

    Rick S.

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    Definitely start with the memory, I had this happen to me with my latest Skylake build.
    I could always get the drives back in the bios when I reverted to default settings.

    I recently changed out my TridentZ memory kit and guess what, no problems anymore!

    Good luck....
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    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array RickSinGA PC Specs
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    Changed out the memory this morning and disconnected the power. Started it back up a little while ago and went straight into Safe Mode with minimal services. So, not memory.

    Guess I will try changing the video card next, that is when it all started. Although a long car ride and possible bump proceeded the video card change.

    Funny thing is that after the machine has sat there in safe mode for a while I can reboot to BIOS and see the SSD now, couldn't at the start, and change it back to the primary drive. Starts right up. This happens time after time after the machine has had a chance to cool off?

    What would cause the BIOS to consistently lose the SSD? Don't forget this is a dual boot system and I think Win 7, on the HDD, is the controlling drive. Once the system comes up there are absolutely no problems regardless of which system is running nor how often the systems are swapped/rebooted. Only after shutting down the system for extended periods does the problem arise.

    Rick S.

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    ROG Guru: Brown Belt Array NemesisChild PC Specs
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    Could be something with your dual boot system, but doubt it's related to your 980.
    Did you try switching SATA ports and try different SATA cables? Also different SATA power cable?

    Did you try testing with just default bios settings?
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    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array RickSinGA PC Specs
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    Yes, no, no and no.

    Good points.

    Back to the drawing board.
    Last edited by RickSinGA; 12-18-2015 at 11:22 PM.

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    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array RickSinGA PC Specs
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    Sameo sameo this AM. Going to change video cards and see what happens in the AM.

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    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array RickSinGA PC Specs
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    That didn't help, now to change all of the power, sata cables & ports.

    Will try going to BIOS defaults also.

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    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array RickSinGA PC Specs
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    Changed to BIOS defaults, still screws up. Changed back.

    Changed SATA cables, power cables and ports. It did have a 3GB cable on the SSD so I changed it to a 6GB and let it stand all day; no problems this evening. It had worked with that 3GB cable for the about a year so I don't really think that was it but I guess a cable could have gone bad?

    Will let sit in a power off state all night and see what happens in the AM, this has been "the test" for a week plus now.

    Rick S.

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    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array RickSinGA PC Specs
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    Nada Nemesis, tried all of your suggestions, any other thoughts?

    Starting to think I have a bad drive or MB. Give it time to warm up and and all is fine!

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    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array RickSinGA PC Specs
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    Has to be something in the SSD.

    Before turning on the system this AM I took the Win-10 SSD out of my machine and swapped it into my son's machine for his Win-10 SSD. Booted and went straight into the BIOS. The SSD was there, went ahead and let the system finish booting and Win-10 came straight up.

    Shut the system down, swapped SSD's, rebooted and went into the BIOS, no SSD? Let the system continue to load and it went into Win-7 Safe Mode with minimal services as it has been in this situation. I tried rebooting several times, over 5 to 10 minutes, before the SSD showed up in the BIOS. Once it had, I was able to select it as the primary and boot to it.

    Unless someone has a better suggestion I guess we need to go pick up a new SSD. I wonder if we can clone it or would that just bring the problem across to the new SSD? Wonder if there is a repair utility for an SSD? Once it warms up it seems to be fine, just doesn't make any sense to me.

    Thanks for any help.
    Rick S.

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