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samboy87 · ‎03-01-2016

Hello!

I need some help and advice, on wish ram would be the best to upgrade to. if it's worth upgrading offcourse 😛

currently im using Crusial Ballistix sport DDR4 2400mhz 16gb Quad channel ram with 16-16-16-35 timing

i want the best ram with best performance in the 2400mhz line

i'm looking at

Kingston HyperX 16 GB DDR4-2400 Quad-Kit 12-13-13-33 for 122euros wish is cheap and fast timings.
G.Skill 16 GB DDR4-2400 Quad Kit Timings: CL14 14-14-34

would i see an improvement in speed with games and overall experience? compared to my ballistix what im using right now?

i could go higher speeds like 2666mhz, 2800mhz or 3000mhz but only if it benefits overall usage.

Arne_Saknussemm · ‎03-01-2016

samboy87 wrote:
would i see an improvement in speed with games and overall experience?

Hey samboy87 🙂

Hmmm...I reckon the answer is no, not really. The difference in day to day stuff and gaming will be next to non existent. If you went for higher frequency and tighter timings then sure.... in benchmarks you would see a difference and maybe in some types of use...like Photoshop image editing times or video rendering times but nothing earth shattering either.

Upgrade if you want to...sure it's fun to squeeze out performance just for the hell of it but for day to day experience improvements money is probably best spent on GPU or display itself....that kind of thing

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Nate152 · ‎03-01-2016

Hello Samboy87

The kit with the lowest timings will always be best and you might get a slight performance increase in games, it will make games feel a tad more responsive but nothing substantial or ground breaking.

The HyperX would be the kit to upgrade to but I don't know if it would be worth the price to performance since you already have a ram kit. You could try overclocking the frequency on your crucial kit to see how far it will go.

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Chino · ‎03-01-2016

samboy87 wrote:

i want the best ram with best performance in the 2400mhz line

HyperX Predator 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4 2400 with 12-13-13.

or

Kingston Savage 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 with 12-13-13.

samboy87 · ‎03-01-2016

thx for the answers guys!

what would be a bigger benefit to be honest , to go with higher mhz and slower timings or lower mhz with tighter timings? as an example

Kingston HyperX 16 GB DDR4-2400 Quad-Kit Timings: CL12 13-13-33

or

Kingston HyperX 16 GB DDR4-3000 Quad-Kit Timings: CL15 16-16-33

what would give the best performance? i know both of both worlds would be the best, but it's only one of the two you can choose from. better timing or higher Mhz. without ''tuning'' and overclock offcourse 🙂

i also checked the 2 profiles on the voltages on Kingston HyperX 16 GB DDR4-2400 Quad-Kit.

DDR4-2133 13-13-13 @ 1,2 Volt
DDR4-2400 12-13-13 @ 1,35 Volt

1.2 volt is more my comfort zone than 1.35 but i dont know , is 1.35 low and normal for DDR4?

I'm leaning towards Kingston HyperX 16 GB DDR4-2400 Quad-Kit but not really sure yet. you have so many brands and diffrent speeds it makes you go ballistix ^^

if you guys know any better brand and ram i'm opend to hear your recommendations:) i hear good thinks over Kingston HyperX but also Gskills so it's hard to choose the best ram.

Chino · ‎03-02-2016

samboy87 wrote:
thx for the answers guys!

what would be a bigger benefit to be honest , to go with higher mhz and slower timings or lower mhz with tighter timings? as an example

Kingston HyperX 16 GB DDR4-2400 Quad-Kit Timings: CL12 13-13-33

or

Kingston HyperX 16 GB DDR4-3000 Quad-Kit Timings: CL15 16-16-33

what would give the best performance? i know both of both worlds would be the best, but it's only one of the two you can choose from. better timing or higher Mhz. without ''tuning'' and overclock offcourse 🙂

i also checked the 2 profiles on the voltages on Kingston HyperX 16 GB DDR4-2400 Quad-Kit.

DDR4-2133 13-13-13 @ 1,2 Volt
DDR4-2400 12-13-13 @ 1,35 Volt

1.2 volt is more my comfort zone than 1.35 but i dont know , is 1.35 low and normal for DDR4?

I'm leaning towards Kingston HyperX 16 GB DDR4-2400 Quad-Kit but not really sure yet. you have so many brands and diffrent speeds it makes you go ballistix ^^

if you guys know any better brand and ram i'm opend to hear your recommendations:) i hear good thinks over Kingston HyperX but also Gskills so it's hard to choose the best ram.

DDR4 2400 is basically the sweet spot. Using 1.35V for DDR4 is fine. What's the difference in price between the 2400MHz and 3000MHz kits?

samboy87 · ‎03-02-2016

Chino wrote:
DDR4 2400 is basically the sweet spot. Using 1.35V for DDR4 is fine. What's the difference in price between the 2400MHz and 3000MHz kits?

Kingston HyperX 16 GB DDR4-2400 Quad-Kit 12-13-13-33 € 122,90
Kingston HyperX 16 GB DDR4-3000 Quad-Kit 15 16-16-33 € 162,90
G.Skill 16 GB DDR4-3000 Kit Timings: CL15 15-15-35 € 122,90*
G.Skill 16 GB DDR4-3200 Quad-Kit Timings: CL16 16-16-36 € 142,90

a few examples incl price.

Minsekt · ‎03-02-2016

id buy the gskill 3000cl15 kit

samboy87 · ‎03-13-2016

Nice , i just ordered the G.Skill 16 GB DDR4-3000 Kit , im getting it on Tuesday 🙂 what would be best to do/use XMP or auto and filling in the timing my self? what would be the differents?

Arne_Saknussemm · ‎03-02-2016

There is a formula that can help you in deciding if one kit is faster than the other when the timings are taken into account. It's a rough rule of thumb but better than nothing....

Tertiary timings are important with DDR4 and it's difficult, without asking around for people who have kits, to find info on these..

(CAS/frequency) x 2000 gives you a number in nanoseconds for comparing speeds.

So if you see a 3000 kit at 15-16-16-33 and a 2400 kit at 12-13-13-33 which is faster?
Well 15/3000 x 2000 = 10 nanoseconds; 12/2400 x 2000 = 10 so they are both the same on paper....

However, if these numbers are close or the same choose the higher frequency it will be more efficient.

I would prefer a G.Skill 4 3000 kit with tighter timings myself...like 15-15-15.....or even try one of the Ripjaws V cas 14 kits

But remember the higher the frequency and size in GB of the kit the more difficult it is for the CPU IMC to run it so if you don't want to bother tuning voltages etc. stay with the lower frequencies...

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