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Whats up guys? new to the forum although i have been lurking around for years. lol
I just bought this laptop so i have some portable gaming to take with me, and i had some questions.
1) Is it worth it to OC the CPU the 100MHz it allows me in Intel Extreme Tuning Utility?
So far all i have done is tighten the RAM timings to 9-9-9-24 and undervolted the CPU/cache -80mV, but if i dont touch voltage and its stable, will it increase temps at all?
2) While playing games, ive seen this CPU hit 85C quite often. Is there a way to control the fans and/or reduce the temps of the CPU?
Like i said, ive already undervolted as much as i could
3) Again, dealing with temps, would it be possible to disable hyperthreading to lower the CPU a few more degrees?
ive searched around a lot, but have not been able to find answers for my CPU.
I just bought this laptop so i have some portable gaming to take with me, and i had some questions.
1) Is it worth it to OC the CPU the 100MHz it allows me in Intel Extreme Tuning Utility?
So far all i have done is tighten the RAM timings to 9-9-9-24 and undervolted the CPU/cache -80mV, but if i dont touch voltage and its stable, will it increase temps at all?
2) While playing games, ive seen this CPU hit 85C quite often. Is there a way to control the fans and/or reduce the temps of the CPU?
Like i said, ive already undervolted as much as i could
3) Again, dealing with temps, would it be possible to disable hyperthreading to lower the CPU a few more degrees?
ive searched around a lot, but have not been able to find answers for my CPU.
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NitroX wrote:
1) It depends. If your temps allow you then why not. I personally use ThrottleStop 8 with 4 different profiles and I only use the full 3.5Ghz when I'm playing demanding games like GTA V. Btw, be careful with the timings cause if you go to low with them you might end up with a bricked unit. There are some guys that have discussed this here on the forum.
2) Yep, most G751 and G752 owners are complaining about CPU temps. While they're not all that worrying, everybody likes lower temps and since there are ways to do this, again, why not ? So, yes, there is a software to control CPU fan profile, and it is called NotebookFanController. See more info over here: https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?58501-Making-of-quot-Official-NotebookFanControl-G751JY-Pr...
3) Yes there is a way to disable hyperthreading for certain apps. See more info here: http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?53249-PSA-G751-203-BIOS-limits-max-turbo-boost-from-35x-to-...
But I found it to be a pain in the .... because you have to do this every time you launch your game/app. So, I prefer using NBFC + Undervolt (+eventually lower clocks if it's really necessary ).
These being said, other ways to reduce CPU temps are (besides Undervolt and NBFC and Disabling HT):
1) Use lower CPU clocks for very demanding games. Set x33/x32 for CPU when 3/4 cores are active. This will work pretty well with games that are not requiring a lot of CPU power. You can use MSI Afterburner and see how much does the game stress your CPU. If you see that the usage is like 50% then lowering the clocks won't affect performance in any way. I've personally tested this with AC Unity and I haven't seen any difference between 3400Mhz and 3000Mhz.
2) Use V-Sync/G-Sync and limit FPS to 60frames. I know that many people are avoiding V-Sync but I find it very useful to keep the components cooler and reduce the useless stress due to additional frames that aren't shown on the display anyways. If you are gaming on a 60Hz display(meaning the notebooks display) then I don't see why you won't use V-Sync/G-Sync. (Excluding pro FPS gamers that cause of the supposed input lag ).
Other usefull threads:
1) https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?55984-Overclocking-the-i7-4710HQ-on-a-G751JY-and-issues&hi...
2) https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?82843-Latest-Intel-XTU-allows-2-bins-for-G751-i7-4710HQ
3) https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?57748-G751JY-Color-Calibration-to-share&p=476412&viewfull=...
4) http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/
Awesome! thanks for all this info!
about the timings, wont XTU just reset the settings if it restarts because of instability? like how does it brick it?
NitroX wrote:
Apparently it fails to reset the BIOS settings to default if you go to low with the timings. Here is the guy who warned us: https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?82843-Latest-Intel-XTU-allows-2-bins-for-G751-i7-4710HQ&p=...
I haven't tested this myself cause I'm not really that eager to disassemble my laptop right now :)). But, as a heads-up, you shouldn't go lower with the timings on your RAM. The same guy said that he went back to 10-10-10-28 because he had some memory instability after a long test with Prime95 and MemTest. (I can't find that post right now). So I suggest you do some system stability tests after all these changes (Undervolt, Mem timings, CPU frequency, etc.).
hmmmmm, i havent touched frequency. i dont want to add anymore unstability yet. i dont really even need that extra speed yet. so im just going to stick with the UV and timings. my laptop has been on for a full 24hrs without issues doing a lot of various things. seems 100% stable. i ran prime 95 for a short time and it passed. my findings with stability tests is that they never actually work. with my desktop, i can use all the stability tests i want and pass them all, but once i do real word stuff like games and browsing, it crashes. so i tend to stray from those tests unless im doing serious OCing.
This is my first "real" gaming notebook. i guess i will just have to accept the temps that it gets. i mean im not overvolting, so the stock everythings should be fine as long as im not thermal throttling, which im not. im just use to my 60C 3770K and 50C GTX 980. all watercooled lol
also, trying out your profile for notebook fan control, so far im liking it. i lowered the speeds at different temps until 70C hits
NitroX wrote:
Yeah, that kind of temps might be achievable only with a laptop like GX700 which, tbh, I see no purpose . Maybe just having loads of money and not having any other good idea on how to spend them better :)).
In my experience with gaming laptops, as long as your normal CPU temps while gaming are around 80-85C (average, not peaks) everything should be fine and dandy. The GPU is quite cool as it is (considering the amount of power it actually offers(performance wise) and consume(heat-generating) ).
Until now, Undervolting and using NBFC seem the best alternatives to lower down CPU temps (and GPU because the total heat will be reduced). No performance hit and they are very effective.
And yes, you can safely change the Thresholds at which the fan changes the speed, but do not mess with other things in the profile (like Read/Write register).
Happy to have been useful ! If you have any other questions please don't hesitate.
Thanks a lot man for the help! Much appreciated!
