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    Quote Originally Posted by codestaxx View Post
    Just wow. I'm beyond shocked. I thought Asus was the enthusiast board to buy when I saw the adverts from CES and the ROG boards and I wrongly assumed they'd support such an old features such as "ATA Password" in their BIOS. I deeply regret my first ASUS motherboard. Don't make the same mistake as I did.

    So if you are thinking about buying a ROG board and using those cool features of encryption on your bad A$$ Samsung SSD 950 Pro , FORGET IT! You can't even get Samsung Magician to allow you to encrypt the drive if it's your startup drive (OS). (Don't even get me started on how non-intuitive it was to get it to install the OS on the M.2)

    For those who dont know it, or confuse it with hardware encryption using external controller, or software one: encryption is supported by SSD controller, most of the manufacturers does support it now. What's actually interesting - if you use SSD, the data is already encrypted, even without you knowing it. Thats simply how the controller saves it. BUT - encryption keys are not ciphered = no password set. Thats why you have access to the data without any password. Simple operation - setting HDD/ATA password in bios, few years ago it just blocked HDD from being enabled. Today what it actually does, it sets the password to protect encryption keys, ergo, without this password data is not available. Most important stuff - as your data is already being encrypted (but without password) there is no performance hit.

    Here's another kicker...they have TPM pins on the board, but they don't make a compatible TPM chip. The old one? Don't even think about it. It's not the same size, nor can you repin it to the connector to make it work. Nevermind it's an old version of TPM anyways.

    So if you value security and privacy, I suggest staying away from Asus. Don't get screwed like I did.
    After reading the answers to your post, I must say the problems are not with Asus, but you. You haven't spend time doing some reseach. Instead you just do things the wrong way not knowing what you are doing- Do some reading and learn, and you will be much better off in the future. People here have done a good job
    providing you with good answers. You should be very happy.

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    May I relay you SSD encryption folks over here to gain some support?

    https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...-in-SSD-drives

    I find it really disappointing that ASUS is not providing a proper BIOS for us!

    Cheers

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    Ive read all the posts for this topic. I understand what the point of the conversation is. I have a maximus impact viii. But i understood the purpose of the motherboard before i purchased it. Its a performance board, plain and simple. Security isnt a huge factor being that most of or rigs are either at home or right next to us at LAN parties. The ROG line wasnt designed around corporate workstation, mobility,etc. They were in fact designed for gamers. Granted yes, they could have added that feature in sure, but it wasnt a deal breaker as mosty of us bought these boards for a single purpose.....gaming.

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    I understand your POV, but who will protect my savegames against the agencies?

    I am just puzzled because this seems to be solely down to adding it into the BIOS or not. It's not a limitation that can't be overcome by relatively little work on ASUS behalf.

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    I totally agree. This functionality really should be implemented in the BIOS, i was amazed that it's not possible to set the ATA password on my motherboard. It never even crossed my mind that this would have been removed.

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    Why was it so hard to put os on m.2????? Christ i had my mother put my os on my m.2 when she was alive last year cause she was curious on how i built my computer and thought it was interesting. I talked her thru it and never an issue.
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    The ATA password is not secure *https://geekscrowd.wordpress.com/201...our-hard-disk/, that is why Asus do not implement it
    It is easily hacked by downloading software or simply reset the CMOS. Too easy.
    TPM module is much better. When encrypted using Bitlocker, it is more secure and much more secure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legolas View Post
    The ATA password is not secure *https://geekscrowd.wordpress.com/201...our-hard-disk/, that is why Asus do not implement it
    It is easily hacked by downloading software or simply reset the CMOS. Too easy.
    TPM module is much better. When encrypted using Bitlocker, it is more secure and much more secure.
    No, you cannot reset it by clearing the CMOS, the password is saved on the HDD, not in the BIOS. That's the BIOS password which is a whole other security feature. You obviously don't know what you are talking about.

    It doesn't matter if TPM is more secure or not, this is a simple thing for Asus to add to the BIOS. It's not even an easy thing to find a TPM that works on some Asus motherboards.
    It's possible to add this functionality on your own by editing the BIOS but this is not something that should be necessary for their customers who wants the benefit of encrypting their SSD's.

    It should be official and done the right way.
    Last edited by manisk; 07-21-2016 at 05:42 AM.

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    There is an incredible amount of buffoonery in this thread. There is no reason to enable ATA password features on a static desktop motherboard other to aid in a poor attempt to hide illegal material from law enforcement. It is true, you cannot clear an ATA password with a CMOS clear; that is way off base. However, you can clear an ATA password with a firmware update using a modified file (see U of T, MIT, and Oxford studies). ATA password protocol cannot block a firmware update using a d board and firmware that retains data is available for most of the major manufacturers.

    I am not sure why so many spend so much time blowing hot air at ASUS who hasn't implemented this for years and years. If you want the feature go buy an inferior board, enable that ATA password, and feel better knowing your little pics are "safe".

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    Ah, yes. Everyone who wants to use encryption is criminals trying to hide their tracks. How original. By that logic, I guess that makes Asus and Samsung criminals too, since they add encryption functions to their products available to the public. For criminals - by criminals.

    It's about the ease of use, with an ATA password you can feel reasonably safe when you have your SSD's with you or if your computer gets stolen. It's not a big thing for them to add and it does not affect you, or others who's not interested in using it, in any way.
    Last edited by manisk; 07-23-2016 at 04:55 AM.

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