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    Rampage V Edition 10 "issues"

    Finished my new build of i7 6950X, Corsair Dominator 128GB PC4-2400, Samsung 950 Pro M2 and Sansung 850 Evo 2TB SSD.

    On the whole I am pleased with the performance but have a couple of issues:

    Firstly, the time from powering on to getting the POST / WIndows 10 startup can be anything up to 30 seconds, the QCode seems to randomly stop at figures before finally handing off to the bootloader, what can I do to reduce this time?

    Secondly, I am a bit confused as to how CSM works. I have a new build and I would have thought that all boot devices would work without CSM and in UEFI mode, but as soon as I turn it off, I get no boot devices.

    I am also confused as to how to get the 950 Pro recognised as a GPT device, I was able to convert using the Shift-F10 cmd in the Windows setup but when I did, windows complained that it was not able to boot.

    Any help would be appreciated.

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    Mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by markscottuk View Post
    what can I do to reduce this time?
    This platform is complicated so cold boot to desktop is going to take longer than other platforms. The boot time is more than saved encoding video...if you know what I mean.

    That said any device you don't use, disable in BIOS...like wifi or bluetooth...

    Disable CSM...though I see you have trouble there...not sure what's happened....a uefi install to a clean ssd should have no problem. Maybe clean install format ssd in windows install process.

    If you want super quick startup times use some form of sleep...fast start up enabled in Windows...

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    Computers are also designed to run 24/7 and weekly or monthly reboots depending on your usage is really all that is needed. I just turn off my monitors. There is actually more stress placed on the system by booting and shutting down every day. Also at idle very little power is used so your electricity bill won't be outrageous. I have always run my systems 24/7 and never had an issue.
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    Install Windows in UEFI mode.

    As for POST, it does take a while to memory train 128GB of memory.

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    Thanks. I have gone into the UEFI and tried to find settings that would allow me to enable UEFI boot. I have seen the boot options at the bottom of the page but all is listed is as follows (in attachment).

    COuld it be that the boot device (Microsoft retail USB key) is not UEFI capable?
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    yes! when you insert a UEFI capable pendrive it says so in the boot device list!
    so first make a UEFI pendrive with windows install files. get a step by step guide in windowscentral or alike...

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    The USB pen just needs a UEFI bootloader present....it's not that the USB is not capable...it's just that Microsoft haven't included UEFI capability....which is ridiculous

    as erixx11 says...just make your own install media...

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    yes! when you insert a UEFI capable pendrive it says so in the boot device list!
    so first make a UEFI pendrive with windows install files. get a step by step guide in windowscentral or alike...

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    Make A bootable USB boot drive from a Windows ISO file with Rufus and select MBR Partition scheme for bios or UEFI computers, File system Fat32 and the select the iso file.
    Or use the Microsoft windows 10 mediacreationtool that works for sure in Uefi mode.

    Make Sure that the Graphics card has UEFI support (GOP Bios) that is needed to completely disable the CSM module, else you have to use Hybrid Uefi


    After that Disable the CSM Module in the Bios, reboot and use F8 to Access the quick boot menu there the USB stick should be listed with UEFI before the stick name (example (Uefi Sharkoon 32gb).

    One thing you should know about Uefi Boot is it will not list a device (DVD,USB drive,,) when it does not have the necessary bootable files on it.
    UEFI firmware supports booting from removable storage devices such as USB flash drives. For that purpose, a removable device needs to be formatted with a FAT12, FAT16 or FAT32 file system,
    while a boot loader needs to be stored according to the standard ESP file hierarchy, or by providing a complete path of a boot loader to the system's boot manager

    With the old Legacy Bios even without a bootable usb stick or Dvd-rom it will stil be listed in the bios and when accessed it will say that the drive is not bootable,
    Uefi will not list the device when it has no data on it, ( so if you have a empty Dvd drive Uefi won't see that drive at all ,
    but when you put the Windows Bootdisk in there then it will see the DVD drive and tell you it can boot from it).

    Windows 8, 8.1 and windows 10 official Iso's are all UEFI compatible, Winodws 7 i'm not sure but with an NVMe driver from samsung it should be bootable as well
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    I now have UEFI working well with CSM turnned off and my boot 950 Pro in GPT format.

    Now the bad news my system, when restarting always shows a machine_check_exception BSOD. I can eventually get it to boot, any ideas?

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