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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBAAR View Post
    me too, TridentZ 3200 cl14 all good
    Same stuff, XMP without problems.

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    Sometimes a summary helps consolidate thoughts and my own experience is applicable: This BIOS update definitely made some changes to DDR4 settings and training, as my G.Skill TridentZ F4-3000C15D-16GTZ previously took 8-10 seconds each time I powered on with previous BIOS (MRC fastboot off). Now, after updating to 1902, followed by a fresh install and thorough cmos clear, the startup POST is only a second or two with only XMP enabled. I have now passed 4 hours of Real Bench, memtest for windows to 400%, and 2 hours of looped 3DMark. I would not be surprised if these changes threw in some instability with certain kits. I do recommend updating followed by a full cmos clear though. Also, remember if you use Win 10 and the new anniversary update was applied all sorts of in place upgrade shenanigans took place and the only way to clean up the mess is a fresh install.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ondersma80 View Post
    Sometimes a summary helps consolidate thoughts and my own experience is applicable: This BIOS update definitely made some changes to DDR4 settings and training, as my G.Skill TridentZ F4-3000C15D-16GTZ previously took 8-10 seconds each time I powered on with previous BIOS (MRC fastboot off). Now, after updating to 1902, followed by a fresh install and thorough cmos clear, the startup POST is only a second or two with only XMP enabled. I have now passed 4 hours of Real Bench, memtest for windows to 400%, and 2 hours of looped 3DMark. I would not be surprised if these changes threw in some instability with certain kits. I do recommend updating followed by a full cmos clear though. Also, remember if you use Win 10 and the new anniversary update was applied all sorts of in place upgrade shenanigans took place and the only way to clean up the mess is a fresh install.
    Fantastic breakdown of your experience, ondersma80.
    Thus far, 3200 and 3000 kits look like they're not experiencing the issue at all (still curious about 2400-2600 kit users out there).

    Procedurally, I reset defaults pre-flash, flash, and reset CMOS post-flash with every BIOS change. I've not encountered any issues with any other revision on my Maximus VIII board (overclocking, XMP, default stability) until specifically XMP with 1902.
    I'm fairly confident that 1902 introduces changes that affect, seemingly, a very select few kits. At least this doesn't seem to be a widespread problem for many people, which is always a good thing.

    I keep MRC Fastboot OFF as well, and experience the same 8-10 second delay you did previous to 1902. It'd be nice to bump to 1902 and experience it being faster with XMP working.

    I format my WIN10 SSD OS drive infamously more than I need to, and have attempted giving 1902 a shot on a clean install pre-AU, and another post-AU format.
    Nothing changed.

    At any rate, I'm still rock solid with 1701, and will just wait and see if the next version addresses the issue.

    Appreciate you guys sharing your experiences and thoughts, and may your overclocks be high, and temps be low.

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    Exclamation XMP tests on 1902 - ASUS broke it - sort of

    After several hours testing this new 1902 here's what I've seen:

    -After flashing 1902, XMP on my RAM is totally screwed. In fact, I cannot post, even clearing CMOS, unless I press MemOK! button. When that's done, my RAM posts at 2133Mhz no XMP (these are 2400Mhz memories).
    If I enable XMP again, system won't boot, and i have to press MemOK! back again.

    Then I have 2 choices:

    1-Force mem @ 2133Mhz, no XMP. It works, boots into windows and everything seemed ok, till to the point where on heavy load system locks, and I get a wonderfull BSOD regarding memory.It shouldn't happen, timmins are alright, and hell, I'm underclocking the memory a bit, It should work no matter what...WTF?

    2-Force memo @2400Mhz, no XMP. This is the setting I'm using right now. It works right, no problems so far. Timmings are a bit looser than on XMP preset, but It works.

    So, to sum things up:

    I think XMP detection changes are, obviously, being made. For some of you it may improve, and for some others like me it will totally break the system. I've got a 2400Mhz DDR4 Kingston HyperMax CL15 memory. These are fairly common brand in market, and affordable, so I expect this problem being fixed by Asus soon, or they will face plenty of complaints of people not knowing that this is a "bios update problem".

    *Note: For any of you thinking I'm having a RAM HW problem, don't worry. I've tested Memtest on 1701 bios, and several video encoding benchmarks and it is fine. It only happens on 1902, so my HW is correct.

    Please ASUS, check this problem ASAP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xator View Post
    After several hours testing this new 1902 here's what I've seen:

    -After flashing 1902, XMP on my RAM is totally screwed. In fact, I cannot post, even clearing CMOS, unless I press MemOK! button. When that's done, my RAM posts at 2133Mhz no XMP (these are 2400Mhz memories).
    If I enable XMP again, system won't boot, and i have to press MemOK! back again.

    Then I have 2 choices:

    1-Force mem @ 2133Mhz, no XMP. It works, boots into windows and everything seemed ok, till to the point where on heavy load system locks, and I get a wonderfull BSOD regarding memory.It shouldn't happen, timmins are alright, and hell, I'm underclocking the memory a bit, It should work no matter what...WTF?

    2-Force memo @2400Mhz, no XMP. This is the setting I'm using right now. It works right, no problems so far. Timmings are a bit looser than on XMP preset, but It works.

    So, to sum things up:

    I think XMP detection changes are, obviously, being made. For some of you it may improve, and for some others like me it will totally break the system. I've got a 2400Mhz DDR4 Kingston HyperMax CL15 memory. These are fairly common brand in market, and affordable, so I expect this problem being fixed by Asus soon, or they will face plenty of complaints of people not knowing that this is a "bios update problem".

    *Note: For any of you thinking I'm having a RAM HW problem, don't worry. I've tested Memtest on 1701 bios, and several video encoding benchmarks and it is fine. It only happens on 1902, so my HW is correct.

    Please ASUS, check this problem ASAP.
    Another great follow up, thanks xator.
    Good info here. Brand seems to be a non-factor, and it's another 2400 kit affected. Interesting.

    I'm fairly sure those who have had issues and posted haven't had "bad RAM" at this point. I know I have Memtested thoroughly like most of you to rule out hardware error, and have zero issues with the RAM itself.

    So far, the common denominator seems to be certain kits under 3000Mhz, and specifically 1902 BIOS.

    Hopefully someone from ASUS can possibly check into this? At least tell us we aren't crazy. :P
    It's a bit difficult to track things like this down when BIOS changes are always listed as "Improve system stability".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiernon View Post
    Another great follow up, thanks xator.
    Good info here. Brand seems to be a non-factor, and it's another 2400 kit affected. Interesting.

    I'm fairly sure those who have had issues and posted haven't had "bad RAM" at this point. I know I have Memtested thoroughly like most of you to rule out hardware error, and have zero issues with the RAM itself.

    So far, the common denominator seems to be certain kits under 3000Mhz, and specifically 1902 BIOS.

    Hopefully someone from ASUS can possibly check into this? At least tell us we aren't crazy. :P
    It's a bit difficult to track things like this down when BIOS changes are always listed as "Improve system stability".
    Finally I had to flash 1701 back again. Not even using 2400Mhz non XMP gave me the stability I needed. After a few hours, random reboots started happening.
    I'm back on 1701, XMP working.

    As you said, hopefully someone from ASUS will check into this, but please, soon.

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    Hi,

    I had problems with this BIOS and XMP enable.

    I've the Gskill Ripjaws V DDR4-2800MHz 2x8GB (F4-2800C15D-16GVR), and never had a problem with other BIOS, until this last one.

    Everything at stock defaults (CPU, Voltages, etc!).

    Reverting to prior BIOS 1701, fix the problem, and now I can run this kit with XMP enable.

    Asus, please fix this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scaramonga View Post
    I've updated what could be. Use at own risk Changes in yellow. HERO Alpha BIOS 1902.



    http://www51.zippyshare.com/v/6JQlBiC5/file.html
    Is this so we dont have to use the "UBU" tool ourself ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackkatt View Post
    Is this so we dont have to use the "UBU" tool ourself ?
    Yes. I done it for ya

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    How niiice...

    Quote Originally Posted by scaramonga View Post
    Yes. I done it for ya
    How nice of you

    However, you should include that one has to use the "flashback thingy" to get this bad boy on the mobo. One would know this if he/she had done this themselves as they would have to read the instructions on http://www.win-raid.com/t154f16-Tool...-quot-UBU.html

    BTW, I thought ppl where doing this upgrade to fix the "Unknown Device" issue introduced in 1902, I guess not. I still have this f-er in my Device Manager

    Did you use the latest bios 1902, or the one before to modify?
    1902 boots a heck lot faster then previous one. But it may have some issues (not sure) that cases one of my SSD disk to disconnect. It's either that or bad controller drivers or the disk is about to go bad...
    Last edited by Blackkatt; 08-15-2016 at 11:05 AM.

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