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    Help choosing new gaming laptop

    Hi.

    Im thinking in buy a new gaming laptop.
    I like Asus, because was my first gaming laptop.
    Im divided between Asus G752VS and the MSI GT73VR 6RE, both with GTX 1070 and I7 6820Hk.
    I have read here and in another places reviews telling that the G752VS OC edition have overheat problems, hight temps, and hardware problems like the keyboard.
    Are this problems resolved?

    Some people here said that GT73VR is better. What do you think?

    These are the specs of both models

    Asus G752VS

    I7 6820Hk
    GTX 1070
    32Gb ram
    1Tb with 512Gb SSd (maybe in raid 0, according asus oficial web site of my country)
    17"3 full hd screen, 120Hz, around 74% rgb color (again, according asus oficial web site of my country)
    With the laptop came one backpack, asus cerburus headset, asus sica mouse
    Price: 2300€

    MSI GT73VR 6RE

    I7 6820Hk
    GTX 1070
    16Gb ram
    1Tb with 256Gb M2 (i dont know what is M2)
    17"3 full hd screen, 120Hz, around 97% rgb color
    Price: 2370€

    Thanks to all

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    Truly i say to you, please do not buy an ASUS ROG laptop. Where do i begin? My G752VY is the most unreliable laptop/pc ive ever owned/built since the 1990s.

    There is the famous, constant in game stuttering. Most games suffer them though not all. There is NO solution for this and many people have returned their laptops because of this, please look it up. Ive had my g752vy for about 5 months now and already the keyboard and screen have been replaced due to failure (also very common, this laptop is made in China), mind you, i treat this laptop very well, and it has almost never been moved since it was new. At the ASUS repair center there was a long queue of people sending in their laptops and smart phones, not a good sign. Ive had 2 Toshiba laptops before this and for the past 6 years, absolutely nothing has gone wrong with them, although theyve traveled with me all over the world and have been banged around ALOT (Airline crew).

    Even 5 months down the road, i am still trying to find a solution, with no success. I would have returned it for my money back, months ago ,but in Malaysia where i am, there are no such things as refunds, returns, or generally consumer rights.

    Besides the poor hardware quality fitted on these laptops, here are a few links showing how widespread the stuttering is -

    https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...-on-Some-Games
    https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...-micro-stutter
    http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread...-scared-of-ROG
    http://www.overclock.net/t/1608930/a...ps-and-stutter
    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...-a-game-starts
    https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...le-please-read
    https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...nce-not-smooth
    https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...ir-shop-issues
    https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...g-at-60-70-fps
    https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...een-on-startup
    https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...reezing-issues

    Notice on all these ROG threads, no one can seem to help them?

    These are only a few problems, there is light bleed on the screen, the also famous ROG popping sounds from the speakers, and just too many other issues i dont have the strength to type about. My advice, build your own gaming rig if you really dont need a laptop. If you do need a gaming laptop, i suggest Alienware or MSI instead, the only reason so many people buy ROG laptops is that its the cheapest option. I made that mistake and i regret it everyday. (Where i am, the ASUS ROG is much cheaper than MSI or Alienware)

    Not all games suffer from the stutter, but most do. It really is a game breaker. Seriously, please do not make the same mistake as i did.
    Last edited by Armesis; 12-06-2016 at 04:57 PM.

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    I've had my ROG G752VS for about 3 months now and I've been very happy with my gaming experience. My biggest complaint(s) are all based around Asus support. In summery, I have higher expectation for support on a laptop that I spent $2300 USD for. Dell and HP have much better support, even if its hard for me to understand their accents.

    G752VS
    I7 6700HQ
    16GB RAM
    GTX 1070
    512 GB NVMe SSD
    1 TB SATA HD

    Looking at your two options, I *still* like the Asus over the MSI for the value of the hardware and, personally, I liked the appearance of the Asus more too. I also have to say though, that because of the support issues, I do not know if I will buy another Asus laptop next time.

    As a foot note, do not go by the specs on either MSI or Asus's websites. I stress this because the laptops you buy can vary greatly depending on where you buy them. For example, my laptop *could* have a 120 Hz screen, but the place I bought it from was selling them with 75 Hz screens. That didn't bother me, but it might bother you. The place that you buy either laptop from is the place you should get your specs from.

    And as if you needed more information, I bought this laptop for my brother in law. He loves it. I only used it for a day before I gave it to him, but I liked it a lot to. It's about half the weight of either laptop you are looking at. The biggest problem I had with it was that I hate the track pad with the integrated buttons. Give Gigabyte a look too.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16834233175
    Last edited by Buggsy; 12-06-2016 at 05:37 PM. Reason: Extra info

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    If you have the money get the ASUS G701 w/ the faster, better GTX 1080 GPU, it'll cost more but be well worth it in the long run!

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    The Asus G701VI is good, but the version available cost much, around 3700€.
    What do you think between this two models?
    Thanks

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    I'm also looking to get a newer rig and need some suggestions. I've been thinking about a newer ROG but really dislike the internal battery and I've heard/seen more bad things about these new gen than I think all other ROG laptops combined. As far as not buying a ROG - I've owned many, they have all been solid.. especially the G750 series (bulletproof). I would like something newer but I'm kind of sketchy about the issues I've heard with these later ones. Maybe someone can clarify which models to watch out for / what issues come with them...

    In any case I would strongly recommend not buying brand new if that's what it will cost you. Do you NEED a laptop or just prefer them? I mainly use ROG because they are all around excellent and I get great deals on them, but if I were wanting the latest and greatest and had to pay full retail I don't think it would be my top choice - you'd get a far bigger bang for your buck building your own pc or ordering a premade, but I'm sure you already know that. I got my G750jm's "new out of box" with 2 years warranty for practically nothing... Those are the best deals to watch for, unless you only want brand new.
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    I prefer ASUS to MSI for many reasons, but it comes down to your personal preference on looks/style and small details. In almost every comparison I've seen between ASUS ROG vs MSI models with identical hardware, the ASUS not only performs better but has better features - fan noise is quieter, cooling is better and evenly distributed (no hot hands, hot keyboard ect), battery life, ect ect... They will both perform almost identically it's just preference. MSI has been praised for their laptop internals being easier to get at also, among other things.

    If you have it boiled down to a handful of models you are interested in, google around for reviews and comparisons. Almost every high end gaming laptop has been covered at one time or another and if they are similar enough you can often find VS pages comparing the 2 directly. *Speak of the devil, heres a link with a direct comparison between the original two you were interested in :

    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Face-Of....173596.0.html

    My problem is I can't boil it down to the models I want, I kind of just have to research them all -.-


    Edit: It's actually funny how closely that comparison page reflects what I wrote... It's the same story just repeated. On these particular rigs the MSI actually performs better, if you are set between the two I'd say go MSI 100% (and I almost always prefer ROG). The MSI scores higher on almost every bench, has a superior display, easy internal access, and a big one, 4k support. Other than that it's the little differences I mentioned - Asus was slightly cooler, MSI had hotspots ect, but it looks like these issues have been mitigated compared to many of the others I've seen where it was LARGE screen/heat/fan noise/ect differences. Here the "issues" are almost not worth mentioning, almost as cool/quiet.. The MSI uses alot more power but who runs these on battery anyways.

    If they are close to the same price my vote is for the MSI
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    Armesis -

    What region did you buy yours from? Did you buy it online or locally?

    It honestly seems like the quality greatly differs on ROG laptops depending on the region. That should be pure nonsense since they are all manufactured the same way, same parts, same factory (I assume), it's hard to imagine so many are fine with no issues and some come out as Lemons if they are all made under identical standards. That's a shame you can't return it.... does that mean you also effectively have zero warranty even when buying brand new?
    Last edited by MaxG73jh; 12-07-2016 at 07:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxG73jh View Post
    Armesis -

    What region did you buy yours from? Did you buy it online or locally?

    It honestly seems like the quality greatly differs on ROG laptops depending on the region. That should be pure nonsense since they are all manufactured the same way, same parts, same factory (I assume), it's hard to imagine so many are fine with no issues and some come out as Lemons if they are all made under identical standards. That's a shame you can't return it.... does that mean you also effectively have zero warranty even when buying brand new?
    Im in Malaysia, bought locally for about USD2100. The back of the laptop says 'Made in China'. ASUS is Taiwanese, which is very close by. It came with a 2 years warranty, but since there are no consumer rights here, refunds are not possible. So far the screen and keyboard have been replaced, its actually the first time ever ive had to go to a computer service center since ive owned computers from the 1990s.

    Sorry for the original, long rant. But that just shows how much suffering this laptop has brought me. There is not much stuttering on games like BF4 (still abit though) or SW Battlefront, but for some others it can be game breaking. Its hard to take advice from others because sometimes we need to experience things first hand, but i sincerely hope you buy something else instead, just look it up online. This problem is very widespread, i really do envy those who do not have this stuttering problem. Everyday i am still looking for a solution.

    Edit - Ive just had a thought, to those who dont experience the stuttering, do you guys play alot of games on your laptop? It doesnt seem to be very prevalent on A title games like the BF series, Battlefront, etc. I have about 310 games on Steam/Origin combined so i do play a large variety of different games. For most of them, the stutter is there.
    Last edited by Armesis; 12-07-2016 at 09:42 AM.

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    I was also thinking in whait for the new G753 with the Kaby Lake, but i think we dont will soon laptops with kaby lake. Asus launch right now the GX800 with a I7 6820HK, one month before the CES. This can mean, "maybe", that the kaby lake processors dont come in the beginning of the year.
    My only doubt about the Asus is:

    How are the temps in extreme mode?
    Can handle overclock in 4 Ghz?

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