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    Planning X370 + Summit Ridge build

    It's about time to build an X370 + Summit Ridge/Ryzen machine (hopefully in January, cmon AMD) with as much hardware ready and waiting for the new parts as possible.

    The parts available thus far:

    Case (Rosewill Thor v2)
    PSU (EVGA P2 750W)
    SSD (Crucial MX200 512GB, might get an m.2 SSD for the new system though)
    GPUs (any number of R9-290s and 390s currently doing mining duty, might get a Vega)
    mouse, keyboard, crappy old 1600x1200 monitor because . . . whatever, man.

    Obviously the boards and CPUs aren't available yet.

    The plan is to use an NH-D15S with two NF-A14 industrialPC 3000 rpm fans (3 fan config using the enclosed fan; yes, Noctua does have clips for the NF-A14!) and some as-of-yet unchosen DDR4. Two roadblocks exist:

    DDR4

    There's no telling what will be on the QVL list for Asus X370 boards.

    One hint is that the A0 ES chip used in the recent CanardPC leaks on Ryzen/Summit Ridge performance apparently supports speeds up to DDR4-2666, but . . . that's an ES. With an early board. Hopefully we'll see support for DDR4-4000 or so from X370. If not, then sad faces all around. There's also the Asus A320M-C motherboard in a Bristol Ridge bundle on the market right now; sadly, it's impossible to find a QVL list for that board.

    So what do you folks think will be good RAM to get for an Asus X370 build? This kit seems like it might be worth a look:

    http://pcpartpicker.com/product/2phj...gx4m2b3733c17r

    Even if the IMC won't go past DDR4-2666, it SHOULD downclock to DDR4-2666 CL/CAS13 or possibly better with extra vDIMM. 1.4v is not too much to ask from DDR4 after all.

    HSF


    After briefly considering custom water or AiO/CLC solutions, it looks like it would be preferable (given the case) just to go back to good ol' Noctua. The NH-D14 on-hand has had a good run, but it's time for something bigger, and the NH-D15S is actually pretty cheap for what you get, thanks to it only having one fan. Two NF-A14 fans will give it a lot of oomph, and the above-linked Corsair RAM is low enough in profile that it won't interfere with the NH-D15S or its included round fan. Clips are available for the square fans, too. The only problem is that right now, any HSF that requires a custom backplate will not work with AM4. Noctua has said in support emails that they will release an AM4 backplate kit for the NH-D15/D15S, but that it won't be available until AM4 is on the market. Never mind that it is already on the market in the form of the A320M-C (and has been since November at least).

    So anyone buying the NH-D15S today CAN get fan clips for NF-A14 fans but can not get the AM4 adapter kit.

    Makes you wonder if it wouldn't just be better to wait until the official launch date for X370 to buy the NH-D15S? Maybe then retailers will have a version of the NH-D15S on-hand that supports AM4 out-of-the-box? Who knows how long it takes for Noctua to ship an adapter kit to someone that shows them a receipt? Wouldn't it be just great to get board + CPU shipped in two days after release only to be waiting a week or two for an HSF adapter kit? No, no it wouldn't.

    AMD was *supposed* to release B350-based Bristol Ridge in October to the DiY market to get everyone on the AM4 bandwagon. Had they done so, we wouldn't be having these problems. As it stands, the only coolers that will be AM4-ready on day 1 will be the stock cooler that comes with the CPU or any AM2 -> FM2+ HSF that relies on the stock backplate (there's an adapter for those, just not anything big like the NH-D15S that requires a new backplate).

    So blah on all that.
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    We are pretty much in the dark on RAM speed or compatibility and same for cooling, I am interested in this platform myself but am comfortable waiting until release
    I did see this today, but we here this 5.0 on air for every release and it rarely if ever possible. http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd...hz-on-air.html
    ASUS has released motherboards with heatsink adapter plates, maybe they will do the same for this release, who knows
    Exciting to think AMD may be back in the race again

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    CanardPC was the mag that ran that binary code that translates to "ZENOC=5GHZ" or whatever it was.

    They ran an update to their article online, explaining that their anonymous source for the ES was able to OC an A0-stepping chip from earlier this year to 5 GHz . . . on one core. The motherboard VRMs held him back. Cooling/voltage may not have been the primary issue.

    So . . . interesting.

    Only thing for sure is that it looks like there are some 4+3 phase X370 boards coming down the pike, so avoid those!!!

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    So no Asus X370 boards shown at CES.



    Gigabyte and ASRock had two, MSI and Biostar each showed one. With the (apparent) launch clockspeed for Ryzen being 3.6 base/4.0 turbo it's getting real people! I'm thinking Feb/March is more likely for the entire lineup though. Le sigh.

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    they may come whit a board when the CPU is realeased.
    who knows.
    only time will tell.

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    Let's hope so! Having to go with MSI would be . . . sad.

    But there is some useful information in the release info on boards from other manufacturers. It looks like the boards released will support "official" DDR4 speeds up to DDR4-2666 with OC up to DDR4-2920 (3000). Maybe higher.

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    Finally! Asus released information about their upcoming X370 lineup:

    http://www.sweclockers.com/forum/post/16639315

    Crosshair VI Hero eh? Interested in knowing more about the ROG-exclusive VRM design. That's gonna be the go-to regardless.

    Already snagged a 16GB kit of Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3733 CAS17. Wish more RAM had such small heatspreaders.
    Last edited by rtgllc; 02-01-2017 at 04:15 AM.

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    Personally, id let Ryzen run its course for a few months while reading any available experiences before jumping on it. Just to see if it meets the hype that only extended use will tell.

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    Nah been waiting for a "real" product from AMD for a long time. Would probably buy one even if it weren't for the hype train. Hell even Bristol Ridge was worth a look (and Raven Ridge later) but AMD won't bother selling them through anything but the most narrow of channels.
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    Apparently pre-ordering the C6H on day one of pre-orders at Amazon is just not good enough to get them to ship a board on the 2nd of March.

    Or ever, really.

    The 1800X arrives tomorrow, but the board hasn't even shipped!

    Sorry, Asus, but it was impossible to even buy one of these things . . . despite playing by Amazon's rules.

    So if ASRock gets the money instead, sorry. Blame Amazon if you must. They screwed a lot of people.

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