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    Long boot Time - Rampage V Extreme

    POST complete, first ROG logo appears and all my usb devices are connected. Then second ROG logo appears and all usb device shuts off for 4-5 seconds. Dots starts spinning and then my desktop appears. Total boot time <60 seconds.

    First boot after Installing Win10 was - 20-25sec. After pressing Power button, no ROG logo appears,it boots straight to the desktop. Then after installing all drivers from Asus and updating Windows, boot takes <60 seconds.

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    NVMe will take longer than normal SSDs.

    So after first boot you didn't have things like GPU drivers, mouse/keyboard drivers, monitor drivers, USB 3.1 drivers, ect ect. Each of these things increase boot load times, not to mention any programs that are part of your startup routine.

    So naturally you can do things like go into the MSCONFIG and disable anything you don't need to run at start up.

    From BIOS you can turn OFF items you don't need loading. For me I don't use Bluetooth/Wifi for example and I turn those things off. You can change the boot device to UEFI only and not to load other USB/Sata items until after it boots into windows. The more you can turn off the quicker the boot will be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brighttail View Post
    NVMe will take longer than normal SSDs.

    So after first boot you didn't have things like GPU drivers, mouse/keyboard drivers, monitor drivers, USB 3.1 drivers, ect ect. Each of these things increase boot load times, not to mention any programs that are part of your startup routine.

    So naturally you can do things like go into the MSCONFIG and disable anything you don't need to run at start up.

    From BIOS you can turn OFF items you don't need loading. For me I don't use Bluetooth/Wifi for example and I turn those things off. You can change the boot device to UEFI only and not to load other USB/Sata items until after it boots into windows. The more you can turn off the quicker the boot will be.
    Why do you say NVMe takes longer? Every machine I have that has NVMes its quite the contrary. Laptop with 2 950 pros in Raid 0 is up in 7 secs opposed to 25 seconds on an 850 pro, Desktop that was first started with 850 evos took about 40 seconds and now with a single NVMe it takes half that.

    Just curious as to what you have to substantiate this as Ive seen the exact opposite from experience.

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    Watch what your MOBO indications, whats the Q codes doing while this is going on. Nothing is going to happen until the Q codes are done.

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    R5E has a big fancy UEFI packed with big fancy BIOS programs running through the big fancy magical "ROG Chip", it's truly a Mount Rushmore among X99 motherboards - with many add-ons to the base chipset to extend features, increase hardware compatibility, support more storage and more speed and more bling and more everything. All these extra processes and complexities also increase startup times.

    My massively multifaceted R5E takes much longer to startup than my strictly-Intel-spec plain vanilla X99-A. Only a trivial issue unless you plan to restart your machine over and over again each day.

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    JustinThyme: The Intel line of NVMe SSD's, like my Intel 750, are known for longer boot times, because they're calibrated for industrial standards. The Samsungs much less so.

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    This is not related to the Samsung NVMe, with a 950 Pro or SM961

    R5E, bios 2xxx => boot in 9.8 sec
    R5E, bios 3xxx => boot in 16.8 sec
    R5E10 => boot in 22.3 sec

    Clearly related to bios
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    tistou77: The latest 3501 BIOS appears to have resolved whatever issue caused that. It might even be booting faster than 2101 did.

    Oddly, the boot time as reported by Windows event viewer doesn't seem to accurately reflect the improvement in boot time. I suspect it's only reporting the boot time of the OS itself - that hasn't really changed. Most of the speed increase of 3501 appears to be before that, prior to the option to enter the BIOS. It's cycling through the Q-Codes much faster (and I'm not seeing the extra reset to 00 that I noticed during all the previous 3xxx BIOS's - or rather, there's still a reset to 00, but it happens much much earlier in the cycle). That seems to come up much quicker now, several seconds at least (and mine didn't take all that long before, either).

    EDIT: Just tested with a stopwatch. Confirmed that the extra 00 reset during post that I noticed on all previous 3xxx BIOS's is either gone or happening within the first couple seconds. From pressing the power button to the Windows login screen took 38.83 seconds. The vast majority of that is spinning Windows dots - it goes through almost 3 full revolutions before the login screen. Event Viewer claims the boot took 23.5 seconds, and I'm assuming for the moment that that counter starts about when the Q Code hits AA and the dots starts spinning (which is simultaneous for me). That's on an Intel 750 SSD which is known to have long boot times, and with Fast Boot disabled in the BIOS (it never made a difference before). So, the full post is taking approximately 15 seconds for me, including the pause allowing us to get into the BIOS. Still seems a lot quicker than 3101-3402 to me.
    Last edited by Qwinn; 01-01-2017 at 05:52 PM.

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    I noticed about a 10-15 second increase from booting times from my R5E to R5E10. I trimmed down things like no Wifi/Bluetooth/CSM/Fastboot/turning off memory checking ect and managed to get it back to about where the R5E was.

    I trimmed it down further by not loading Sata devices and such, but in the end whether it is going from a cold boot to Windows or waiting for Windows to stop loading all the stuff I said to load after startup, it is about the same.


    Quote Originally Posted by Qwinn View Post
    tistou77: The latest 3501 BIOS appears to have resolved whatever issue caused that. It might even be booting faster than 2101 did.

    Oddly, the boot time as reported by Windows event viewer doesn't seem to accurately reflect the improvement in boot time. I suspect it's only reporting the boot time of the OS itself - that hasn't really changed. Most of the speed increase of 3501 appears to be before that, prior to the option to enter the BIOS. It's cycling through the Q-Codes much faster (and I'm not seeing the extra reset to 00 that I noticed during all the previous 3xxx BIOS's - or rather, there's still a reset to 00, but it happens much much earlier in the cycle). That seems to come up much quicker now, several seconds at least (and mine didn't take all that long before, either).

    EDIT: Just tested with a stopwatch. Confirmed that the extra 00 reset during post that I noticed on all previous 3xxx BIOS's is either gone or happening within the first couple seconds. From pressing the power button to the Windows login screen took 38.83 seconds. The vast majority of that is spinning Windows dots - it goes through almost 3 full revolutions before the login screen. Event Viewer claims the boot took 23.5 seconds, and I'm assuming for the moment that that counter starts about when the Q Code hits AA and the dots starts spinning (which is simultaneous for me). That's on an Intel 750 SSD which is known to have long boot times, and with Fast Boot disabled in the BIOS (it never made a difference before). So, the full post is taking approximately 15 seconds for me, including the pause allowing us to get into the BIOS. Still seems a lot quicker than 3101-3402 to me.
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