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09-17-2021 10:40 PM #1
Axle Grease PC Specs Motherboard Asus Rampage V Extreme w/ BIOS 3801 Processor Intel i7-5960X Memory (part number) F4-3000C15Q-16GRR Graphics Card #1 Gigabyte RTX 3080 Gaming OC 10G Monitor Asus ROG Swift PG278Q Storage #1 Corsair MP510 1.92TB (NVMe) Storage #2 Samsung 850 Pro 1TB/860 Evo 1TB CPU Cooler NZXT Kraken Z73 AIO liquid cooler Case Corsair Obsidian 900D Power Supply Antec HCP-1300 Platinum Keyboard Logitech Pro (TKL) Mouse Logitech G-Pro WIreless Headset Beyerdynamic MMX 300 Mouse Pad Razer Goliathus Headset/Speakers Audioengine HD6 OS Windows 10 Pro Network Router Linksys WRT1900ACS Accessory #1 HTC Vive (1st gen)
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SecureBoot + UEFI + TPM 2.0 does not make an "old" PC Windows 11 compliant.
I got myself a TPM 2.0 module ( SuperMicro AOM-TPM-9665V-C ) compatible with the Rampage V Extreme and Intel i7-5960X, but that does not make the PC Windows 11 compliant. Only one more step towards it. There's bound to be some under reported, obscure CPU features, that will get reported as "Your CPU is not Windows 11 compatible" or "Your CPU is too old" when lacking. At the moment TPM 2.0 being a must for Windows 11 compatibility is what tech news sites focus on, distorting the actual situation.
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09-18-2021 02:01 AM #2
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Currently it seems you've passed the major requirements. To resolve minor issues like CPU Compatibility you will need to rely on "hacks" and registry changes within the Windows 11.
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09-18-2021 02:35 AM #3
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As of the latest update the registry hacks are disabled and ineffective. This has been all over the insider forum. I cant test it out but a lot of things from the TPM module to CPUs were on the list.
It also came with bugs. Had to uninstall Ique and Chrome and resintall/reboot as they both kept crashing. Seems OK ATM.
R6EE with embedded TPM and 10980XE running no problems. All of the old hacks for running older machines etc are being hacked right back and being disabled so all the information out right now wont help. Coming down to the wire as it goes for public release on Oct5.
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09-18-2021 02:52 AM #4
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It's still a bit early for effective re-engineering hacks to be released. They will likely appear after the official Win 11 release.
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09-18-2021 04:28 AM #5
Axle Grease PC Specs Motherboard Asus Rampage V Extreme w/ BIOS 3801 Processor Intel i7-5960X Memory (part number) F4-3000C15Q-16GRR Graphics Card #1 Gigabyte RTX 3080 Gaming OC 10G Monitor Asus ROG Swift PG278Q Storage #1 Corsair MP510 1.92TB (NVMe) Storage #2 Samsung 850 Pro 1TB/860 Evo 1TB CPU Cooler NZXT Kraken Z73 AIO liquid cooler Case Corsair Obsidian 900D Power Supply Antec HCP-1300 Platinum Keyboard Logitech Pro (TKL) Mouse Logitech G-Pro WIreless Headset Beyerdynamic MMX 300 Mouse Pad Razer Goliathus Headset/Speakers Audioengine HD6 OS Windows 10 Pro Network Router Linksys WRT1900ACS Accessory #1 HTC Vive (1st gen)
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I feel despondent that hacks are necessary to get Windows 11 to run properly on this fine specimen of gaming hardware. What is infuriating is how atrocious Microsoft is at conveying to the general pubic the specific CPU requirements for Windows 11. They might be as important as TPM 2.0. We just don't know, and that is purely the fault of Microsoft.
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09-19-2021 09:47 AM #6
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Linking related posts for easy access.
https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...n-TPM2-0-modul
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09-19-2021 09:52 AM #7
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09-19-2021 10:24 AM #8
NitrousX PC Specs Laptop (Model) Dell G5 5587 Motherboard Asus Rog VIII Hero Wifi Processor R9 5900X Memory (part number) GSkill F4-3200C14Q-32GTZR Graphics Card #1 Gigabyte Aoros Master RTX 3080 Monitor LG 27GP950 x2 Storage #1 Samsung 960 Evo 1TB Storage #2 WD Blue 4TB SSD CPU Cooler EKWB Velocity Case Fractal Design 7 Power Supply Seasonic 850 Platinum Keyboard Corsair K95 Mouse Zowie EK Headset Sennheiser PC 38X Drop Edition Mouse Pad Anker Scrab Headset/Speakers Logitech Z909 5.1 OS Windows 10 Pro
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It would be his CPU, MS currently supports 7th Gen intel CPU's or later. For AMD its 2nd Gen Zen CPUs or later.
Read articles online saying that if you manage to hack Win 11 on older CPU's you will not receive windows updates.
MS is doing this to help OEMs sell new devices which I think is wrong considering the time we are in. Chip shortages in a pandemic worst time to do it.
At least with Win 10 it will be supported until 2025. Still plenty of time but it sucks considering myself I have 3x devices that will no longer be supported.
I either upgrade the entire lot or see if i can upgrade the CPU's
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09-19-2021 11:20 AM #9
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SecureBoot + UEFI + TPM 2.0 does not make an "old" PC Windows 11 compliant.
True!
You’ll be able to run Windows 11 on older PCs—if you install the update manually
What some know and some do not know.
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https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021...date-manually/
Microsoft officially announced some small additions to Windows 11's official CPU support list today, along with additional details about the operating system's security requirements. But another, quieter announcement should quell more of the system requirement-related angst: the Verge reports that Microsoft won't stop you from performing manual installs of Windows 11 on systems that don't meet the official requirements. That means that people running Windows 10 on unsupported systems won't be offered Windows 11 through Windows Update, but you'll still be able to update if you download an ISO file and perform an upgrade or a clean install manually.
This will be a particular boon to PCs right on the border of Windows 11's system requirements, like those running 6th- or 7th-generation Intel Core CPUs or first-generation AMD Ryzen processors. These chips are missing support for a few esoteric optional security requirements but can otherwise meet the performance and Secure Boot and TPM 2.0 requirements and still get modern DCH driver support from Intel, AMD, and most PC OEMs.
Microsoft is still actively recommending that you don't run Windows 11 on any system that doesn't meet the official support criteria. According to data from PCs running the Insider Preview builds, Microsoft says that PCs that didn't meet the requirements had "52% more kernel mode crashes" than PCs that did and that first-party apps crashed 43 percent more often on unsupported hardware. But allowing users to make the decision for themselves is arguably what the company should have done in the first place. People who don't seek out the Windows 11 update will never be offered it if their hardware isn't up to snuff, but advanced users, testers, and IT departments who do want to run the latest software on their computers can evaluate the trade-offs and make the decision for themselves.
The current Insider Preview versions of the Windows 11 ISOs will halt if your system is missing either Secure Boot or a TPM (though it's fine with a TPM 1.2 module, despite the operating system's official TPM 2.0 requirement). You can get around this limitation with a couple of quick Windows Registry hacks; we don't yet know whether the final Windows 11 ISOs will make the same system checks. We've asked Microsoft for more details and will follow up if we get a response.Last edited by pndiode; 09-19-2021 at 11:36 AM.
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09-19-2021 07:35 PM #10
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I am going to step out on a limb to say TPM is little to do with security, but more to do with tracking PCs and usage. There is likely an unique identifier in each TPM chip. Coincidence that this is being implemented the same time as this contrived global crisis?
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