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    Quote Originally Posted by Demoniacstar View Post
    yeah man 3600 ram is awesome .....the system feels so awake compared to 3000/3200
    Would you mind sharing some app benchmark results which are more dependent on memory speed, for example WINRAR and CB15, so we could compare are there really such benefits over for example 3466 ultra-low-latency (stilt's fastest + some other tweaks) that many are running.

    Please also consider opening new thread for this purpose. Thanks.
    Last edited by Sigtran; 01-24-2018 at 08:40 PM.

  2. #1842
    ROG Enthusiast Array whiskey-foxtrot PC Specs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demoniacstar View Post
    well you know ...i thought about doing that ....but to many people have said im crazy
    You ARE Crazy Crazy for believing whoever told you that. On a serious note, good job man! What did you end up doing with the T-Force memory you started out with?

  3. #1843
    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array Demoniacstar PC Specs
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskey-foxtrot View Post
    You ARE Crazy Crazy for believing whoever told you that. On a serious note, good job man! What did you end up doing with the T-Force memory you started out with?
    i still have it ....i told a friend of mine if he buys a 1800x and board id give it to him ....to try and get him tweeaking settings with me again ....lol...we banged the $@^! out the fx 8350's for awhile fun times..lol.....
    i have hit 1875 in cine...15.1 or what ever the last one wuz.....
    look me up on the geek bench 4 and geekbench 3 score browsers you will see some geek bench results this ryzen is on the 4 scores i think i might have ran a few with ryzen on 3 not sure ....

    my latest time spy run...cpu score is nice...i overclocked the gpu vram too high and it dropped my gpu score....but ill beat my old score with this ram ....
    https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/24804120
    my fastest cine. so far.....my fastest with my other ram wuz 1870 so im not seeing much from that .....but i might if i find the right voltages
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    overall i have to say im happy as ever with this ram....best $$$ ive ever spent on ram ...lol....i hope it drops in price before i order more

    ill show you this also ....it has the exact model number for my ram....this is not the settings i used to get 1875....at 4.1ghz i crashed trying to run cinebench this is the only test i done ...at 4.1ghz cpu with this ram.....but i m still tweaking ...will be for a long while to i love it...lol
    https://valid.x86.fr/8hkhg0
    Last edited by Demoniacstar; 01-25-2018 at 02:38 AM.

  4. #1844
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigtran View Post
    Would you mind sharing some app benchmark results which are more dependent on memory speed, for example WINRAR and CB15, so we could compare are there really such benefits over for example 3466 ultra-low-latency (stilt's fastest + some other tweaks) that many are running.

    Please also consider opening new thread for this purpose. Thanks.
    see my last post ......im not runing no bodies tweaks or settings ....i run my own ...

  5. #1845
    ROG Enthusiast Array Sigtran PC Specs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demoniacstar View Post
    see my last post ......im not runing no bodies tweaks or settings ....i run my own ...
    Not sure what you mean, but ok, thx.

    I have 1864cb with 4GHz (100MHz bus) and 3466 CL14 with ultra-low latency and optimized subtimigs in BIOS. No any windows tweaks.
    See my post somewhere on this page for reference
    https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...en-1800X/page3

    WinRar result with same settings is 15465, which is even more sensitive to memory speed and latency... It would be good if you run WinRar also and share result, since on many places, incl. overclock.net I heard that Ryzen on 3600 CL16 is not faster then 3466 CL14... not just in benchmarks, but in games also... Also many IMCs simply cannot reach 3600MHz memory speed, regardless of memory kit and settings (at least on air, not talking sub-zero benchmarking).

    BTW, what memory and soc voltage you run to get stable 3600MHz?
    Last edited by Sigtran; 01-25-2018 at 06:09 AM.

  6. #1846
    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array Demoniacstar PC Specs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigtran View Post
    Not sure what you mean, but ok, thx.

    I have 1864cb with 4GHz (100MHz bus) and 3466 CL14 with ultra-low latency and optimized subtimigs in BIOS. No any windows tweaks.
    See my post somewhere on this page for reference
    https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...en-1800X/page3

    WinRar result with same settings is 15465, which is even more sensitive to memory speed and latency... It would be good if you run WinRar also and share result, since on many places, incl. overclock.net I heard that Ryzen on 3600 CL16 is not faster then 3466 CL14... not just in benchmarks, but in games also... Also many IMCs simply cannot reach 3600MHz memory speed, regardless of memory kit and settings (at least on air, not talking sub-zero benchmarking).

    BTW, what memory and soc voltage you run to get stable 3600MHz?
    well sounds like you need to know all you need to hot rod....you good to go then...o wait ...as i said before, ram speed don't affect cinebench directly ..... i got 1870 with 3000 mhz ram higher clocked ram can help by getting a higher infinity fabric clock speed ....... but geekbench seems to need more ghz then mem or cache bandwidth speeds

    my overall system score is $hit cuz of my full spinner drives ......
    but i do not have a slow system...lmao...if thats what you are getting at....
    http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/6990672#MEMORY_KIT
    Last edited by Demoniacstar; 01-25-2018 at 10:21 AM.

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    New beta 3502

    - TSC-based timer issues after S3 resume are fixed (ie HPET is disabled, S3 resume works normally again)
    - Otherwise I think there are mainly updates/fixes for future processors
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/6mlv45...-ASUS-3502.zip
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/j2t5ht...-ASUS-3502.zip
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/q6edbd...-ASUS-3502.zip

  8. #1848
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demoniacstar View Post
    i got 1870 with 3000 mhz ram higher clocked ram can help by getting a higher infinity fabric clock speed .......
    As I understand, IF clock speed is directly related to IMC memory clock, right?

    And this is the main reason why Ryzen responds very well to higher memory speed, as its IF, i.e. its internal core interconnect, is scaling with memory clock, which is not the case with Intel for example.

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    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array Demoniacstar PC Specs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigtran View Post
    As I understand, IF clock speed is directly related to IMC memory clock, right?

    And this is the main reason why Ryzen responds very well to higher memory speed, as its IF, i.e. its internal core interconnect, is scaling with memory clock, which is not the case with Intel for example.
    yes your exactly right ......the interconnect or infinity fabric runs half the speed of ram! ....but this interconnect running faster only seems to affect latency's on the cpu cache and ram once it get so high .....which in turn makes ryzen feel faster ...things will load faster ....games with big texture pacs will load faster ....faster ram past 3400 might not show in faster FPS in games ....but your defiantly going to see faster load times on every thing .... AND sence using this ram i have noticed a snappyness like i felt when i first switched to ryzen from a fx 8350......ive ran and tweaked on this 3000 mhz ram for over a year i got pretty used to it ....
    but 3600mhz+ is seriously WOW! man .......its the Ryzen system ive wanted ........if only Ryzen had more pci-e lanes , id be 100% happy with it.....
    sooner or later ill build me a threadripper .....i want those pci-e lanes .....i feel like i got no expandabilty running 2 gpu's takes up almost all the pcie lanes on Ryzen lol....but i have been stable and booted with no crashes and errors for a full 48 hr now ......with ram sitting at 3657mhz it is sweet.......
    Last edited by Demoniacstar; 01-26-2018 at 01:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxrealliti View Post
    New beta 3502

    - TSC-based timer issues after S3 resume are fixed (ie HPET is disabled, S3 resume works normally again)
    - Otherwise I think there are mainly updates/fixes for future processors
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/6mlv45...-ASUS-3502.zip
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/j2t5ht...-ASUS-3502.zip
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/q6edbd...-ASUS-3502.zip
    I have no clue what they have fixed but the BIOS still incorrectly reports the CPU clock speed. I was able to run 3350MHz for my RAM with Stilt's fast timings in 3501. So far, not possible with the same settings and also with a little more voltage. I tried 3333MHz with Stilt's safe timings with 1.425v and that was also not stable. 3200MHz C14 with Stilt's fast timings are the best I can get. Even trying C15 for 3466MHz was basically a no go. I didn't waste my timing trying anything higher.
    Syaoran

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